Hundreds of workers protest against Italians/Foreigners 'taking jobs'...
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Spion
I hear ya
So all the BJ4BW/'Put UK workers first' placards didn't exist? The demand that employment go to 'locally skilled' labour did not exist? The video interview of strikers demanding that European labour be used as a last resort did not exist?
Remarkable. Truly remarkable
Spion
I hear ya
I think that the bosses should be made to pay for jobs for all that need them
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
wriggle wriggle.
That IS what the strike is over, sub-contracting.
You've ignored everyone elses largely patient response to you, and just keep posting and reposting the same thing, even tho the point has been answered over and over.
It's not a very honest way of debating your point. You're not prepared to listen to anyone else, you just want to shout RACIST, even tho their is sweet fa evidence of racism.
I'm not gonna waste another moment pretending to argue with you on this, you've got your fingers far too far down in your ears and can't hear anything other than what you want to hear.
Bye
That IS what the strike is over, sub-contracting.
You've ignored everyone elses largely patient response to you, and just keep posting and reposting the same thing, even tho the point has been answered over and over.
It's not a very honest way of debating your point. You're not prepared to listen to anyone else, you just want to shout RACIST, even tho their is sweet fa evidence of racism.
I'm not gonna waste another moment pretending to argue with you on this, you've got your fingers far too far down in your ears and can't hear anything other than what you want to hear.
Bye
Chapter 1 may be.
dennisr
the acceptable face
If only those thick working class types understood every nuance, dot, comma and underline of socialist internationalism
*sighs* - *goes to weep in corner*
Spion
I hear ya
Absolute dishonest crap. I've not called anyone a racist on this thread. I have said that there are nationalist demands at the heart of the strike's aims, and that's quite a different thing
Spion
I hear ya
You pair are some double act. Neither could speak a straight word if you tried
dennisr
the acceptable face
You have said you would not support those strikers because of their racist slogans. You have repeatedlty tried to present them as racists (along with the entire news media in the uk and apparently across europe) - that's a definate thing that puts you on a definate side.
Am I being dishonest with this statement?
dennisr
the acceptable face
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
they always do this wind up bullshit, no point in trying tro have an honest debate.
dennisr
the acceptable face
they always do this wind up bullshit, no point in trying tro have an honest debate.
another 'voice of truth' cutting through the crap and lies of the entire boss media set-up
oh, hold on...
Spion
I hear ya
Totally dishonet. I have never said they were racist. Find me a single example of where I did. I have patiently explained why key demands of the strikers aim at favouring British workers over others and I have clearly said I support them fighting against job losses and for more jobs to be created - but not to exclude other nationalities from work.
Socialists should tell the truth. I'm appalled at the self delusion that's gone on here
Spion
I hear ya
Yet another snidey comment. You really do have a problem with honesty
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
said barely anyting you lying fuckwit.
dennisr
the acceptable face
Of course, you don't do 'snidey' do you?
I am sure 'the workers' will eventually thank you for being the beacon of the 'truth' and support in struggle that you are
dennisr
the acceptable face
said barely anyting you lying fuckwit.
And there was was me thinking you said:
they always do this wind up bullshit, no point in trying tro have an honest debate.
must have been some other "Resistance" (sic) MP3
although full credit for saying nothing when it mattered
tithead
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Sorry, but Spion hasn't shouted 'racist' at all. I don't understand why you and dennisr keep saying he did.
JimW
支那暗杀团
The epitome of the fake leftist hard liberal meeting the actual working class.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
they always do this wind up bullshit, no point in trying tro have an honest debate.
so completely unlike you're squirming and wriggling, mutleys desperate digging for evidence of racism even when its unconnected to the strike, and MC2.5's posting up glove puppets!
You total hypocrite.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
some Euro MEPs have written some joint statement:
http://www.amicustheunion.org/Default.aspx?page=9984
whatever vetoing the European Commission would mean in practice
http://www.amicustheunion.org/Default.aspx?page=9984
whatever vetoing the European Commission would mean in practice
dennisr
the acceptable face
Sorry, but Spion hasn't shouted 'racist' at all. I don't understand why you and dennisr keep saying he did.
him and his nuances
the workers he refused to support because of their 'reactionary, zenophobic etc etc demands' were not actually 'racist' then - he was simply implying (repeatedly) that they were non-racist folk whom he could not support?
are you saying he was only implying they were 'reactionary' or 'zenophobic' or whatever else was implied - you can delete as appropriate - so thats OK?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Sorry, but Spion hasn't shouted 'racist' at all. I don't understand why you and dennisr keep saying he did.
substitute nationalism if you like, makes little odds. Spion has decided his position on the basis of some placards that are no longer used, and one news clip - despite the explicit and obvious bias of the beeb. Either way, he isn't prepared to listen to any counter-argument
dennisr
the acceptable face
remember the horror that is facebook - like germany 33 all over again but this time online!!
doom ... gloom ... shock ... horror
dennisr
the acceptable face
whatever vetoing the European Commission would mean in practice
Hello some of our Euro representatives have woken up
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
I have barely said anything about the bosses media set-up lies etc.
I did say you were a wind up bullshitter, and U immediately proved it by twisting my post. Well done!.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
there's certianly some evidence of racism/xenophobia among some - SOME - of the strikers, which should be extra reason for the left to support the strike, because otherwise the bnp are going to fill that vaccuum and more left leaning workers will find themselves pretty isolated.
for fucks sake, not everyone knows as much about politics as we do, (which is not much tbf) - not all of them are likely to have spent time debating the finer points of socialism, like most people they probably have their views but are apolitical, some are probably mildly prejudiced, but thats hardly a reason to cry racism at all of the strikers and push them into the arms of the fash ..
for fucks sake, not everyone knows as much about politics as we do, (which is not much tbf) - not all of them are likely to have spent time debating the finer points of socialism, like most people they probably have their views but are apolitical, some are probably mildly prejudiced, but thats hardly a reason to cry racism at all of the strikers and push them into the arms of the fash ..
Spion
I hear ya
You forgot to mention the demand for 'locally skilled' labour to be employed that formed part of the strikers demands. You try to smear as useless the actual words of the striker who said that Euopean labour should be used as a last resort because they were on the BBC, tho clearly unedited.
I never used to worry about the possibility of Stalinism if we had a revolution here. But the 1984-like denial of plain facts makes me think I was wrong
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
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