How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?
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existentialist
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It's all a bit "I know something you don't, ner ner ni ner ner", isn't it?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Irrespective of the eventual outcome, that piece is pretty fucking shabby...even by the usual standard of Staines' output. Unless the tory MPs mentioned employ child reseachers, I'm not sure what the (implied) sexual orientation of the Labour MP has to do with an allegation of paedophilia.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Quite. But then he's (proudly) a right-wing reactionary - what do the social insights of the last 40 years matter to him?
J Ed
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The comments on his blog would be very popular on Stormfront or one of the racist subreddits.
hot air baboon
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BREAKING NEWS: Senior Westminster figures from 1970s and 1980s including former Home Secretary Leon Brittan named in government child abuse files
PUBLISHED: 18:02, 22 July 2015
Senior Westminster figures from the 1970s and 1980s have been named in government files related to child abuse, it emerged tonight.
The men include former Home Secretary Leon Brittan, ex-diplomat Sir Peter Hayman, former minister Sir William van Straubenzee and Sir Peter Morrison, who was an aide to Margaret Thatcher.
The Cabinet Office confirmed that documents relating to the men, who have all since died, exist after a series of requests from Sky News.
While in January this year, top British diplomat and former MI6 worker Sir Peter Hayman was the focus of a secret Government file about his 'unnatural' sexual behaviour.
This most recent file reveals there were further Government papers relating to him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...1980s-named-government-child-abuse-files.html
.....have we got a new name here...
....cute timing aswell...day after Parliament broke up for the Summer...
PUBLISHED: 18:02, 22 July 2015
Senior Westminster figures from the 1970s and 1980s have been named in government files related to child abuse, it emerged tonight.
The men include former Home Secretary Leon Brittan, ex-diplomat Sir Peter Hayman, former minister Sir William van Straubenzee and Sir Peter Morrison, who was an aide to Margaret Thatcher.
The Cabinet Office confirmed that documents relating to the men, who have all since died, exist after a series of requests from Sky News.
While in January this year, top British diplomat and former MI6 worker Sir Peter Hayman was the focus of a secret Government file about his 'unnatural' sexual behaviour.
This most recent file reveals there were further Government papers relating to him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...1980s-named-government-child-abuse-files.html
.....have we got a new name here...
....cute timing aswell...day after Parliament broke up for the Summer...
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I'm old enough to remember William van Straubenzee's existence -- mostly though I remember because of the unusual name.
No, I don't think he's been mentioned in this thread (? - or anywhere else?).
No, I don't think he's been mentioned in this thread (? - or anywhere else?).
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Significant as it sounds like evidence that fatch knew about Morrison. Their queen was a paedo protector.
elbows
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Need to know more about the file(s) in question before being able to say that is evidence of that. We don't know what era of government the Morrison stuff is from, as far as I can tell from the press articles so far. Conflation may be occurring.
As for the naming of Straubenzee, it offers the opportunity to play 'hunt for possible hints in obituaries'. Oh, here we are:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-sir-william-van-straubenzee-1124329.html
brogdale
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
hot air baboon
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.....rang a bell with me but turns out that was more to do with links to the Royal Family - ( "....all roads...") where a Thomas of that ilk is described as part of the younger Royal's "inner-circle" in various breathless Telegraph articles :
Royal wedding: William and Kate's inner circle
...Today's Times story :
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Citizens Electoral Council of Australia
Media Release Thursday, 23 July 2015
Craig Isherwood‚ National Secretary
PO Box 376‚ COBURG‚ VIC 3058
Phone: 1800 636 432
Email: cec@cecaust.com.au
Website: http://www.cecaust.com.au
60 Minutes exposes organised paedophilia among highest ranks of British elite
60 Minutes’ explosive 19 July feature, “Spies, Lords and Predators”, reported that the recent blizzard of revelations of paedophile rings operating among the elite of the British Establishment constitutes the “biggest political scandal Britain has ever faced”. Presenter Ross Coulthart stated right at the show’s outset, “There is a paedophile gang operating at the highest levels of the British Establishment” (his emphasis), and, although 60 Minutes did not dwell on the point, that includes the Royal Family itself. However the Royal involvement shone through in an 18 July article by the UK’s ExaroNews, which 60 Minutes credited as a co-producer of its show, while a 24 June press release by the CEC had been even more explicit in naming the Royals.
60 Minutes reported the first-hand allegations of a number of child abuse survivors, who identified the prominent Establishment figures who abused them when they were children in the 1970s and 80s.
One survivor, Richard Kerr, fell victim to this paedophile ring as a nine-year-old in the 1970s, when he was sent to the Kincora Boys Home in Belfast, Northern Ireland, run by notorious paedophiles. From Kincora, Kerr, like many others, was trafficked all over the UK to be abused by powerful men. To 60 Minutes, he identified among his abusers former member of parliament Cyril Smith, and former deputy head of MI6 Sir Peter Hayman. The latter was a member of an organised gang called the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which campaigned openly in the 1970s for the age of consent to be lowered to as young as four.
The CEC’s 24 June release also identified the paedophile ring operating out of the Kincora boys’ home, in connection with the murder gangs that British intelligence coordinated in Northern Ireland, under the command of Brigadier General Frank Kitson, to orchestrate terrorism and civil war. Though his troops opened fire on unarmed civilians in the infamous “Bloody Sunday” massacre of 30 January 1972, killing 13 civilians and wounding 13 more, the Crown showered honour after honour upon him, including an OBE for his work in Northern Ireland, while the Queen personally inducted him into her ultra-elite Order of the Bath. Still alive, he retired in 1982 as Commander-in-Chief, UK Land Forces. The CEC release emphasised the unique significance of the Kincora story:
“Despite pleas from many quarters to do so, British Home Secretary Theresa May has staunchly refused to include the Kincora case in the new child abuse inquiry to be headed by New Zealand Judge Lowell Goddard, even though the present, local inquiry in Northern Ireland into Kincora under Anthony Hart QC lacks the legal powers to compel crucial witnesses to testify. Why the steadfast refusal to include Kincora? Because there is abundant evidence now even in the public domain that MI5, MI6 and other British intelligence agencies know that not only was one of Kitson’s paramilitary ‘pseudo-gangs’ (Tara) at the centre of that affair, but that other, leading members of the British establishment were personally involved in the abuse, including Lord Mountbatten himself, Surveyor of the Queen’s Pictures Sir Anthony Blunt, and numerous other high society figures from Ireland and England.”
60 Minutes did not name these individuals, but ExaroNews in its 18 July article reported that Richard Kerr had identified some of the same figures which the CEC had:
“Among those who were part of the cover-up of a paedophile network linked to Kincora boys’ home in Belfast, Northern Ireland, according to Kerr, were:
It was very clear to the CEC, who had named Mountbatten himself as a paedophile in its 24 June release. Among other things, Mountbatten had welcomed the notorious paedophile Jimmy Savile into the Royal family, and he became a regular at Buckingham Palace and a mentor and advisor to Prince Charles. According to British press accounts, Savile molested as many as 1000 children, many of them helpless patients in hospitals. He was also, according to some accounts, a necrophiliac, who proclaimed that the 5 days he had spent alone with his mother after her death were the “happiest days of my life.”
60 Minutes also identified as a high-ranking paedophile one of Margaret Thatcher’s many paedophile protégés, Sir Leon Brittan, whom she appointed Home Secretary and whose department was responsible for investigating, and therefore covering up, paedophile complaints. Brittan, for instance, “lost” extensive documentation on high-level paedophilia presented to him by MP Geoffrey Dickens in the early 1980s. 60 Minutes also named Lord Greville Janner, a sitting member of the House of Lords who until recently the Public Prosecutor had declined to prosecute on the grounds of his claimed dementia, even though he had voted in Parliament over 200 times since the onset of his alleged mental debility. 60 Minutes also interviewed a member of PIE, which gave the viewer a skin-crawling glimpse into the mindset that openly justifies, in fact promotes, the sexual exploitation of children.
The UK authorities have covered up this paedophile network for decades, because it exists at the dark heart of where real power is wielded in Britain’s anti-democratic, elitist system—in the Crown itself. This scandal threatens the entire British oligarchical power structure, and there are already indications that the Goddard inquiry into the scandal will simply continue the cover-up, as demonstrated by present Home Secretary Theresa May’s refusal to include the Kincora Boys Home in the inquiry, which would expose the overlap between the paedophile networks and MI6/MI5 and the Royals. A cover-up was also signalled by Goddard’s forecast that the inquiry would take 5-10 years to conclude—the typical British Establishment ploy to drag such things out until the uproars which caused them have died down and key witnesses have disappeared, died, or been terrorised into silence.
60 Minutes indicated its intention to follow up on its explosive report. But if you really want to get to the bottom (or the top!) of this Satanic evil which permeates the British Establishment, stay tuned for more revelations from the CEC.
Media Release Thursday, 23 July 2015
Craig Isherwood‚ National Secretary
PO Box 376‚ COBURG‚ VIC 3058
Phone: 1800 636 432
Email: cec@cecaust.com.au
Website: http://www.cecaust.com.au
60 Minutes exposes organised paedophilia among highest ranks of British elite
60 Minutes’ explosive 19 July feature, “Spies, Lords and Predators”, reported that the recent blizzard of revelations of paedophile rings operating among the elite of the British Establishment constitutes the “biggest political scandal Britain has ever faced”. Presenter Ross Coulthart stated right at the show’s outset, “There is a paedophile gang operating at the highest levels of the British Establishment” (his emphasis), and, although 60 Minutes did not dwell on the point, that includes the Royal Family itself. However the Royal involvement shone through in an 18 July article by the UK’s ExaroNews, which 60 Minutes credited as a co-producer of its show, while a 24 June press release by the CEC had been even more explicit in naming the Royals.
60 Minutes reported the first-hand allegations of a number of child abuse survivors, who identified the prominent Establishment figures who abused them when they were children in the 1970s and 80s.
One survivor, Richard Kerr, fell victim to this paedophile ring as a nine-year-old in the 1970s, when he was sent to the Kincora Boys Home in Belfast, Northern Ireland, run by notorious paedophiles. From Kincora, Kerr, like many others, was trafficked all over the UK to be abused by powerful men. To 60 Minutes, he identified among his abusers former member of parliament Cyril Smith, and former deputy head of MI6 Sir Peter Hayman. The latter was a member of an organised gang called the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which campaigned openly in the 1970s for the age of consent to be lowered to as young as four.
The CEC’s 24 June release also identified the paedophile ring operating out of the Kincora boys’ home, in connection with the murder gangs that British intelligence coordinated in Northern Ireland, under the command of Brigadier General Frank Kitson, to orchestrate terrorism and civil war. Though his troops opened fire on unarmed civilians in the infamous “Bloody Sunday” massacre of 30 January 1972, killing 13 civilians and wounding 13 more, the Crown showered honour after honour upon him, including an OBE for his work in Northern Ireland, while the Queen personally inducted him into her ultra-elite Order of the Bath. Still alive, he retired in 1982 as Commander-in-Chief, UK Land Forces. The CEC release emphasised the unique significance of the Kincora story:
“Despite pleas from many quarters to do so, British Home Secretary Theresa May has staunchly refused to include the Kincora case in the new child abuse inquiry to be headed by New Zealand Judge Lowell Goddard, even though the present, local inquiry in Northern Ireland into Kincora under Anthony Hart QC lacks the legal powers to compel crucial witnesses to testify. Why the steadfast refusal to include Kincora? Because there is abundant evidence now even in the public domain that MI5, MI6 and other British intelligence agencies know that not only was one of Kitson’s paramilitary ‘pseudo-gangs’ (Tara) at the centre of that affair, but that other, leading members of the British establishment were personally involved in the abuse, including Lord Mountbatten himself, Surveyor of the Queen’s Pictures Sir Anthony Blunt, and numerous other high society figures from Ireland and England.”
60 Minutes did not name these individuals, but ExaroNews in its 18 July article reported that Richard Kerr had identified some of the same figures which the CEC had:
“Among those who were part of the cover-up of a paedophile network linked to Kincora boys’ home in Belfast, Northern Ireland, according to Kerr, were:
- Lord Mountbatten, a cousin of the Queen, great-uncle to Prince Charles, chief of the defence staff from 1959 to 1965 …;
- Sir Maurice Oldfield, director of the Secret Intelligence Service, better known as MI6;
- Sir Anthony Blunt, master of the Queen’s pictures, former officer in the Security Service, or MI5, who became a Russian spy;
- Sir Knox Cunningham, Unionist/Ulster Unionist MP, parliamentary private secretary to Harold Macmillan as prime minister, and member of the Conservative party’s national executive committee 1959-66. …
It was very clear to the CEC, who had named Mountbatten himself as a paedophile in its 24 June release. Among other things, Mountbatten had welcomed the notorious paedophile Jimmy Savile into the Royal family, and he became a regular at Buckingham Palace and a mentor and advisor to Prince Charles. According to British press accounts, Savile molested as many as 1000 children, many of them helpless patients in hospitals. He was also, according to some accounts, a necrophiliac, who proclaimed that the 5 days he had spent alone with his mother after her death were the “happiest days of my life.”
60 Minutes also identified as a high-ranking paedophile one of Margaret Thatcher’s many paedophile protégés, Sir Leon Brittan, whom she appointed Home Secretary and whose department was responsible for investigating, and therefore covering up, paedophile complaints. Brittan, for instance, “lost” extensive documentation on high-level paedophilia presented to him by MP Geoffrey Dickens in the early 1980s. 60 Minutes also named Lord Greville Janner, a sitting member of the House of Lords who until recently the Public Prosecutor had declined to prosecute on the grounds of his claimed dementia, even though he had voted in Parliament over 200 times since the onset of his alleged mental debility. 60 Minutes also interviewed a member of PIE, which gave the viewer a skin-crawling glimpse into the mindset that openly justifies, in fact promotes, the sexual exploitation of children.
The UK authorities have covered up this paedophile network for decades, because it exists at the dark heart of where real power is wielded in Britain’s anti-democratic, elitist system—in the Crown itself. This scandal threatens the entire British oligarchical power structure, and there are already indications that the Goddard inquiry into the scandal will simply continue the cover-up, as demonstrated by present Home Secretary Theresa May’s refusal to include the Kincora Boys Home in the inquiry, which would expose the overlap between the paedophile networks and MI6/MI5 and the Royals. A cover-up was also signalled by Goddard’s forecast that the inquiry would take 5-10 years to conclude—the typical British Establishment ploy to drag such things out until the uproars which caused them have died down and key witnesses have disappeared, died, or been terrorised into silence.
60 Minutes indicated its intention to follow up on its explosive report. But if you really want to get to the bottom (or the top!) of this Satanic evil which permeates the British Establishment, stay tuned for more revelations from the CEC.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Some repeat points, but in the light of some recent stuff:
Leon Brittan is now being consistently cited as a paedophile in more credible fashion than was the case immediately after his death.If it is the case that he was a paedophile, a follow up question is: Who knew?
It's reasonable to assume that party leaders will have been told of suspicions by security services at the times he was a prominent party member (he was moved to Europe of course)
William Hague and Iain Duncan Smith would be in the frame.
Alert the mods and delete if you want (for the names I just spelled out), it's the stark issue that anyone with rudimentary capabilities can figure out. It was all very well to rip the BBC to bits and haul individuals over the coals about Savile wasn't it?
That's why this has to have the lid kept on as much as possible. Any decent mainstream "journalist" would be on to this by now, unless they were being stopped from upstairs.
The implications that serving senior cabinet ministers effectively facilitated child rape should be the kind of thing to bring down a government.
We'll see how desperate they and the rest of the establishment are to cling on.
Leon Brittan is now being consistently cited as a paedophile in more credible fashion than was the case immediately after his death.If it is the case that he was a paedophile, a follow up question is: Who knew?
It's reasonable to assume that party leaders will have been told of suspicions by security services at the times he was a prominent party member (he was moved to Europe of course)
William Hague and Iain Duncan Smith would be in the frame.
Alert the mods and delete if you want (for the names I just spelled out), it's the stark issue that anyone with rudimentary capabilities can figure out. It was all very well to rip the BBC to bits and haul individuals over the coals about Savile wasn't it?
That's why this has to have the lid kept on as much as possible. Any decent mainstream "journalist" would be on to this by now, unless they were being stopped from upstairs.
The implications that serving senior cabinet ministers effectively facilitated child rape should be the kind of thing to bring down a government.
We'll see how desperate they and the rest of the establishment are to cling on.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The former Labour minister story...dragging the war criminal in....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/blair-government-briefed-police-paedophile-6123122#
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/blair-government-briefed-police-paedophile-6123122#
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Interestingly, John Mann was a Labour councillor in Lambeth when that was happening. Funny how he says fuck all about it, but is happy to smear Jeremy Corbyn for "inaction" over paedophile grooming gangs in Islington. Anyone would think he had ulterior motives...
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Mann apparently reported it to police in 1989, but nothing was done. Im fuzzy on the details of what he did between then and all this blowing up again.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
ExaroNews @ExaroNews 1h1 hour ago
Ben Fellows trial resumes at Old Bailey: Ken Clarke in witness box.
ExaroNews @ExaroNews 8m8 minutes ago
Asked by his counsel how upsetting it was, Ben Fellows replies: “Not upsetting at all. It was weird, but not upsetting.”
ExaroNews @ExaroNews 3m3 minutes ago
After making alleg of indecent assault by Ken Clarke, Ben Fellows says, “I was very scared, frightened for my family and for our lives.”
Ben Fellows trial resumes at Old Bailey: Ken Clarke in witness box.
ExaroNews @ExaroNews 8m8 minutes ago
Asked by his counsel how upsetting it was, Ben Fellows replies: “Not upsetting at all. It was weird, but not upsetting.”
ExaroNews @ExaroNews 3m3 minutes ago
After making alleg of indecent assault by Ken Clarke, Ben Fellows says, “I was very scared, frightened for my family and for our lives.”
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I stand corrected, but he's still a cunt.
Pickman's model
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crossthebreeze
Well-Known Member
Janner will now be charged with 22 counts of secual offences against children
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5603/lord-janner-charged-with-child-sex-abuse-in-reversal-for-dpp
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5603/lord-janner-charged-with-child-sex-abuse-in-reversal-for-dpp
crossthebreeze
Well-Known Member
Exaro are saying a man has been arrested in the investigation into the child sexual abuse Esther Baker went public about suffering. She alleged a Lib Dem MP, who has not been publicly named, was one of the several men who abused her - however the man who has been arrested is not a current or former MP.
That might be what caused the confusion.
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