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The final report of the Aves Commission, published in 1969, recommended the establishment of a new national, independent membership organisation or ‘Volunteer Foundation’. The report called for any such organisation to be funded by a‘generous initial grant from public funds’.3 In this the Commission found themselves in tune with Ted Heath’s government, elected in June 1970, which was keen to support the development of infrastructure to help voluntary bodies operate more effectively. For example Lord Windlesham, Minister of State at the Home Office, was given responsibility for ‘co-ordinating the Government’s interests in the field of voluntary social services’ and a Voluntary Services Unit formed.
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Setbacks and breakthroughs re Ops #Fernbridge and #Fairbank. On@exaronews late tonight, a major breakthrough. exaronews.com
Detectives believe that some of the sex parties – some of which are believed to have been attended by paedophiles Jimmy Savile and MP Cyril Smith – were organised by Britain’s most notorious child abuser, Sidney Cooke, as we revealed in February.
Cooke led the ring of four jailed for killing Jason Swift in Hackney, East London, after gang-raping him in 1984.
The alleged victim claims he was trafficked, along with other children, to Holland by Cooke’s gang.
Scotland Yard’s paedophile unit has been working with Dutch police, and an officer from Amsterdam attended an interview by Met detectives with the key witness.
The Sunday Mirror told in February how the minister had been photographed by police in 1986 entering a property where one of the sex parties was being held, but no arrests were made.
Cooke, now 86, would pick up the unsuspecting teenage boys from streets around Kings Cross. He would drive them to places across North London where paedophiles lay in wait to rape them repeatedly.
A former officer, who worked on Operation Orchid which convicted Cooke and his gang, claimed they had taken pictures of the minister and that 16 members of an alleged VIP paedophile ring were due to be arrested.
But the day before the arrests were to be carried out, detectives were told the operation had been disbanded.
Mail confirms it was the VSU - investigation started apparently.I reckon it was probably the 'voluntary services unit' which has more references to it on the internet, although may well have been rebranded since.
e.g. the following which don't contain directly related info but do suggest the existence of such a unit:
1979: The National Association of Victims Support Schemes was created as an ‘umbrella body’ for the local schemes. Funding comes from private trusts and the Home Office's Voluntary Services Unit.
(from http://www.victimsupport.org.uk/about-us/history-and-achievements/key-events-and-achievements )
Drafting documents within Voluntary Services Unit, Home Office for written parliamentary question from David Alton MP
(from http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/HOM000003480001.html )
How do the blogs that name living names get away with it? At least one name on that recently posted link has - i am sure - access to very expensive lawyers (not saying it for obvious reasons)
I don't want to say I enjoy this thread as that is the wrong word but I appreciate the persistence of elbows and others
I haven't seen a link to these documents on this thread (I may well have missed it)
Mary Moss papers
Mary Moss was the development officer for London "national association for young people in care", these documents appear to have been posted shortly after her house was raided, "after she refused to cooperate with police".
Well one of the problems is that the 'evidence' that ended up on the internet in this case is really just a worthy starting point for fresh investigation. For example I'm pretty sure even Chris Faye from NAYPIC would caution strongly against using a certain list of names to draw conclusions instead of as a starting point.
Another problem which easily leads to certain blogs etc being labelled as conspiracy theorists in their approach to this subject, is the history of writings and conspiracy theories around this subject. There was an existing template for sloppy writing & conclusion drawing about this kind of abuse involving politicians, with varying degrees of actual fact involved. Some of them were based on clear cases of abuse & coverup, but others were mostly sponsored by a desire to lump all the powerful offenders together in some other way (party affiliation, sexual orientation, whether they were jewish or a member of the new world order or whatever).
Certainly back in the day on this thread and other related ones, those of us who were interested enough to attempt some of our own basic internet research had rather mixed results. There were signs of some people getting away with bad shit. Of ranks closing, of intimidation, and of networks of abuse only being partially dealt with. And I don't think there was anything wrong with tentatively joining some dots, but in pencil not permanent marker.
But the problems were numerous. Psychologically damaged victims sometimes struggling with the quality of their own evidence. Attitudes and laws regarding homosexuality in the past. A historical tory gay closet that has been described (I forget by whom) as having been the largest in Europe some decades ago. And not just the potential of the security services to cover-up or otherwise make use of abuse committed by persons of interest, but also to create smear stories, sometimes carried in the fringe press but sometimes countered by them, suggesting specific rumours of the day were really unfair smears done for other political reasons.
And there is certainly an appetite to find some powerful guilty people. I don't know if any of the inquiries about abuse at various institutions will manage this, partly because its really unclear how many 'noteworthy' perpetrators were involved, as opposed to those who were in more local positions of power. And the couple of dead MPs implicated isn't enough. At least one really high-profile case involving a politician needs to be brought through the justice system with an outcome that will get the press to dwell on it and tell more of the story about the case in question. Thats a bare minimum really to even begin to satisfy all of the people who have been let down in the past and are very cynical about the prospects of anything being different this time.
In terms of what the various inquiries (as opposed to police investigations) may achieve, I suppose it may be the politicians and the police who get forced into greater reform of the way they handle this stuff as a result of inquiry recommendations. Because a lot of the stuff about other institutions failings that we would normally expect such inquiry reports to dwell on in tedious detail, have already been done or are obsolete. We've already had decades of awareness that large institutions were a bad place to put vulnerable people including the young, which actually got acted on in part because it coincided with changed government economic agendas that favoured or demanded the gutting of many public institutions.
Written like a true apologist. You have to being paid well to spout this.
Anyone seen this and have views on it? http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/
Written like a true apologist. You have to being paid well to spout this.
I like how institutions are to be blamed for the systematic abuse of children over decades, this will not wash.
Do you think the Lord that was arrested today is just being smeared and is innocent? The MSM won't report the story, Google is restricting searches.
Thanks - sounds a reasonable viewpoint. I didn't think Kerry-anne Mendoza (author of that blog) would have gone into full on conspiraloon mode (she has built a decent following among people who want openly leftist journalism and she wouldn't want to blow that I think) but at the same time I could see some logical leaps were being made.
You're right, I hadn't noticed those zeitgeist links before.she's a conspiraloon, was bigging up the zeitgeist stuff recently as well
Nope, I don't frequent the Icke forums at all. Good to see that anyone arguing against the narrative that is being spouted here is immediately Icke'd, strange that.Written like a True Believer with no interest in how the world works. David Icke forums are over there ==>. Bye!