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How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

Breaking news on the BBC website
Met probed over abuse 'corruption'

The police watchdog is to investigate alleged corruption in the Metropolitan Police dealing with claims of child sex offences from the 1970s to the 2000s.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission said the allegations were of "historic, high-level corruption of the most serious nature".
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31907201

I'm guessing it links back to ...

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5428/police-privately-admit-cover-up-for-paedophile-mps-and-vips
 
Finally.

The law it would seem is akin to the 'mills of God', in that they grind exceeding slow. One must now hope that they grind exceeding fine.

It is more than time that this was brought to an end. If the news reports/speculation is correct, this is beyond explosive. Fucking good job that this will not be reported until long after the election, to the relief of all parties I should imagine.
 
Sounds like Newsnight have an 'exclusive' relating to this tonight. I doubt I'll be shocked by any revelations even if they are actually new, but hopefully they've got something that can increase attention on the broader story as well as specific example(s).
 
Too tired to recap it properly now but it was pretty clear that the main pressure they were trying to excerpt was in relation to getting cast-iron assurances that anybody coming forwards won't have official secrets act problems.
 
And no need for me to recap since the Cyril Smith scrapped investigation despite visual evidence and arrest is presently the lead story on the bbc news website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31908431

Many revelations worthy of quoting but I found the bogus assurances the police were given at the end of having their investigation shutdown were quite revealing.

The team was called together at Gilmour House and told by a senior officer - whom they had never met before - to hand over their notebooks, photographs and video footage.

They were read passages from the Official Secrets Act to deter them from speaking out, according to one account.

There was a row at the police building but the inquiry was closed and officers were assured Smith "would not be playing a role in public life any more". In fact, he continued as MP for Rochdale until 1992.
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One more quote I think:

Smith is said to have been one of those caught on camera, another being a senior member of Britain's intelligence agencies.

According to an account given to the BBC, Smith was later seized at a property in Streatham, south London, where he had reportedly been taking part in a sex party with teenage boys.

It is understood he was taken to the former Cannon Row police station - which is opposite the House of Commons.

But it was claimed he was released that night and a duty sergeant who wanted to keep him in custody was reprimanded.
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Bernie Gunther said:
Just remind me again.

Does the IPCC have any remit to investigate wrongdoing committed by spooks or security service personnel?
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It's even worse than that, what was announced appears to be the met investigating themselves and the IPCC being reliant on the met investigation for info. This was mentioned on newsnight.
 
Sure but that's always the case right? The IPCC is in effect a reputation management service for dirty cops.

However it doesn't have even nominal powers to deal with child raping spooks getting their mates to sort out such 'difficulties' ...
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Sure but that's always the case right? The IPCC is in effect a reputation management service for dirty cops.

However it doesn't have even nominal powers to deal with child raping spooks getting their mates to sort out such 'difficulties' ...
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As I understand it the IPCC has at least two different modes of operation, and this is the even crapper one as it doesn't involve outside forces investigating the force suspected of wrongdoing. Thats the only point I was making, not trying to suggest the IPCC is any good and yes, the spooky stuff is highly likely to remain in the shadows. But it seems quite plausible that there were other channels between political power and police than the purely spooky routes, and we'll at least get a glimpse of some of those.

Meanwhile the Guardian has a vaguely useful summary of some of the jigsaw pieces in terms of police investigations into politicians and related matters:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/16/westminster-paedophile-ring-innuendo-evidence
 
elbows said:
It's even worse than that, what was announced appears to be the met investigating themselves and the IPCC being reliant on the met investigation for info. This was mentioned on newsnight.
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FWIW:

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper said: "It is worrying that this is not a fully independent investigation. Instead the Met will lead this work with oversight from the IPCC.

"Surely this should be done by an independent investigator or, at the very least, an alternate force."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31907201
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Judicial inquiry, 2018... put it in your diary now :(
 
Victims must be fed up to their back teeth, another investigation into an investigation, more years roll by with still no arrests.
 
elbows said:
Sounds like Newsnight have an 'exclusive' relating to this tonight. I doubt I'll be shocked by any revelations even if they are actually new, but hopefully they've got something that can increase attention on the broader story as well as specific example(s).
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Cops surveilling & videoing abuse & not intervening. I must be naive, because that rattled me. The state, covert & overt, allowing the powerful to rape the vulnerable - and possibly not just allowing, but enabling.
I realise I'm not adding anything to the analysis. But fuckin hell - the class system laid bare.
 
The evidence has been in for some time that state apparatus have been used to protect people who fuck kids, and therefore have facilated the fucking of kids.

If that's their attitude to victims of such horrendous crime, what hope for the rest of us. The moral legitimacy of the British state is sub zero. In similar fashion to the wording of the US declaration of independence, its not our right to overthrow it, it's our duty.
 
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