Have You Read Capital vol. One?

[danny la rouge]

Just out of interest, is it a well read book?

 

[Belushi]

No, despite having a degree in politics I only read the handouts we were given.

 

[Roadkill]

I've noted 'no' as I've never read it all through. I've dipped into it quite a bit, though.

 

[danny la rouge]

No, despite having a degree in politics I only read the handouts we were given.

Damn, I should have put "selected passages in the anthologies" as an option.

 

[JimW]

No; put it on a list to do along with those video lectures by David Harvey but then still haven't got round to it. Read a few section previously over the years.

 

[marty21]

No, despite having a degree in politics I only read the handouts we were given.

same here, can't remember reading much of it on handouts tbh

 

[butchersapron]

You missed out an option for Vol 4 (both parts) Danny.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I think you need an option for 'some parts of it frequently, but never end to end'

 

[danny la rouge]

You missed out an option for Vol 4 (both parts) Danny.

Because I've never read it, perhaps.

 

[danny la rouge]

Prediction: I'm expecting only the first 3 chapters to be the most popular option, eventually.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Prediction: I'm expecting only the first 3 chapters to be the most popular option, eventually.

That seems weird to me. I found it much more accessible to start with the Primitive Accumulation chapter and the ones around there, then go back and puzzle the first few chapters out.

 

[butchersapron]

That seems weird to me. I found it much more accessible to start with the Primitive Accumulation chapter and the ones around there, then go back and puzzle the first few chapters out.

There's a long standing modkl of reading it that way. Lots of reading guides suggests doing it like that. I think Chapter one needs to be read first and then again at the end myself.

 

[danny la rouge]

That seems weird to me. I found it much more accessible to start with the Primitive Accumulation chapter and the ones around there, then go back and puzzle the first few chapters out.

Sure, you know that now, but only in hindsight, surely?

I usually recommend people read Value, Price and Profit first.

 

[danny la rouge]

Lots of reading guides suggests doing it like that.

I think David McLellan recommends that.

 

[CyberRose]

No, despite having a degree in politics I only read the handouts we were given.

I'm in the same boat, but in my case, as I got my degree from an ex-polytechnic I didn't even bother to read the handouts

 

[Belushi]

I'm in the same boat, but in my case, as I got my degree from an ex-polytechnic I didn't even bother to read the handouts

Heh, I'm ex-Poly to, How we laughed when they insisted our degrees were as good as an Oxbridge one.

 

[butchersapron]

You're a bloody Communist too!

 

[danny la rouge]

Can I just ask the handouts only readers: how did you write essays?

 

[girasol]

Nope, can someone give me a quick synopsis?

My mum read it, does that mean I'm cool?

 

[ska invita]

I saw the film - it was shit.

 

[butchersapron]

Can I just ask the handouts only readers: how did you write essays?

There's a float of ideas about marx - that's all that you need to know, not marx.

edit: see also most posts about marx on here.

 

[Belushi]

You're a bloody Communist too!

Non-practicing though butch.

 

[butchersapron]

Non-practicing though butch.

A sleeper

 

[Belushi]

Can I just ask the handouts only readers: how did you write essays?

Same way I always wrote them, told the lecturer what I thought they wanted to hear.

 

[CyberRose]

Can I just ask the handouts only readers: how did you write essays?

When I wrote an essay (not on this subject but in general), the first thing I would do is go down to the library and take out as many books on a given subject as possible, not that I ever intended to read any of them, it just made me feel like I had 'done' something. When it came round to actually doing something, I would decide what I wanted to write about and then check the indexes of the books out for single sentences or paragraphs on the specific thing I wanted a quote for. That book then went into the bibliography making it appear that I had read it, and thereby allowing me to gain a high mark for doing loads of research

 

[Belushi]

A sleeper

Theres been some excitement on that front recently, the banking crisis has got me old man convinced that the inevitable collapse of capitalism is upon us.

 

[butchersapron]

When I wrote an essay (not on this subject but in general), the first thing I would do is go down to the library and take out as many books on a given subject as possible, not that I ever intended to read any of them, it just made me feel like I had 'done' something. When it came round to actually doing something, I would decide what I wanted to write about and then check the indexes of the books out for single sentences or paragraphs on the specific thing I wanted a quote for. That book then went into the bibliography making it appear that I had read it, and thereby allowing me to gain a high mark for doing loads of research

Welcome to academia

 

[danny la rouge]

Same way I always wrote them, told the lecturer what I thought they wanted to hear.

They want to hear:

"I've read lots of books".

 

[Belushi]

They want to hear:

"I've read lots of books".

And I'm happy to tell them that

 

[danny la rouge]

And I'm happy to tell them that

Anyway, back on topic: commies who haven't read Capital - is it all about the Manifesto, or are you going on secondary sources?