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Hartlepool by-election

I get the sense that many ‘on the left’ still haven’t grasped the extent or depth of the cleavage between the Labour Party and its previous base. It’s not about a specific direction of travel or leader per se (although both feed into it). It is the sense, the firm conclusion, that the Labour Party isn’t for them/is against them. This has been a conclusion 30 years or more in the making. Brexit was the moment of confirmation but it stretches back through Blair/Brown/Miliband and Corbyn. Like in Scotland, there is no foreseeable possibility of these votes ever coming back. It’s basis is simple: the lived reality of these communities.

The vacuum of working class political representation in places like Hartlepool won’t be filled by the Tories for long, but what was a space that many - normally from the right - have attempted to fill is now a gaping chasm.
Exactly as you say, Brexit as confirmation. If you just take one moment, well several months of it, May's government floundering and faffing about, failing to deliver brexit. In some ways, that was the ultimate tory failure, a brexit referendum to solve the party's own divisions. It didn't and it dragged on and on. But, from memory, Labour managed only single digit leads at the moment of slow death and inaction for the tories. Labour had nothing to say and could only play games, trying to build voting numbers to bring May down. No sense that this was all about trust, promises and having a relationship with voters, the thing they had dribbled away for decades. All it took for the whole pantomine to fall apart was some twat to come along and say GET BREXIT DONE. That's how irrelevant Labour had become by 2019.
 
jesus. It's difficult to believe that's a real thing. He's clearly mad, but also a cunt. Wouldn't be surprised if someone takes it upon themselves to do him some serious damage over the next few weeks.
Isn't it more usual for sex offenders to stand for the major parties? :confused:
 
What’s the Saudi connection?

He accepted an all expenses paid research/PR trip to Saudi and came back saying that he'd seen lots of 'progressive' stuff.

He probably said other stuff they don't quote, but politics is a rough old game, and if you don't want to be quoted saying stupid things, don't say stupid things...
 
if you don't want to be quoted saying stupid things, don't say stupid things...

and that’s why my political career was doomed from the off

probably worse that he went on the all expenses paid trip to a proper cunt of a regime in the first place IMO
 
I'm sure that Labour's opponents will be "intensely relaxed" about this particular intervention...


I remember watching him on the telly once and thinking he looks a bit like what I would expect the devil too, After about a moment I realised he didn't seem to blink and as I thought that he looked at me (the camera of course but it looked like he was looking straight at me) and blinked.
It definitely creeped me out a bit, I'm reassured to note that he appears to have aged.
 
It's true that PM was a surprisingly good constituency MP and is still remembered fondly by some in t'Pool. I doubt it will make any difference though.
 
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