Grenfell Tower fire in North Kensington - news and discussion
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Treacle Toes
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That someone needs to shut the fuck up.
bi0boy
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Yes they just tweeted 12-hour old news
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
He's apparently suffering from writer's block, seeing as he can't think of anything newsworthy to post on his blog either, not since the council's AGM back in May, or the London Bridge attack in a neighbouring borough. Things are quiet in Kensington & Chelsea, I guess.
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
By my reckoning that means it's due as a BBC Breaking News ticker sometime tomorrow.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Police had opened an investigation as they would, its only now its changed to criminal has it not??
Barking_Mad
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Treacle Toes
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Lily Allen confirms she was axed from Newsnight after she controversially claimed '150 people died' in Grenfell Tower fire
Lily Allen confirms she was axed from Newsnight after controversial comments
Lily Allen confirms she was axed from Newsnight after controversial comments
bi0boy
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They don't run civil investigations:
Police open criminal investigation into Grenfell Tower fire
The probe could result in the prosecution of anyone deemed responsible for building or design failures that caused the blaze.
"We as the police have started an investigation, I mentioned when I was down at the scene this morning that one of our very senior investigating officers is leading that for us," said Metropolitan Police commander Stuart Cundy.
"We as the police, we investigate criminal offences - I am not sitting here and saying there are criminal offences that have been committed, that's why you do an investigation, to establish it.
To correct, victims' relatives. Poor reading comprehension on my part there. Apols.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
I agree with that, but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable for the authorities to keep the "official" figure as one that accurately represents known, recorded deaths at this time. Clearly they're aware that loads more people have died, but it would be irresponsible to put out estimates which will be immediately seized upon by the media & treated as gospel. Especially when you consider the practical difficulties of managing such a large number of deaths. How do you make sure you don't count the same body twice or three times? There has to be a methodical system in place, which will inevitably mean it all takes time.If those kind of numbers are coming from people in the community, the action group, people who are aware of who's missing then you have to give them some credence.
I'm not saying they aren't suppressing the truth - that wouldn't surprise me - just that I think the clamour for information may be fuelling speculation of a conspiracy or cover-up.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No, it was announced last night, on the Guardian news feed and other news outlets
ska invita
back on the other side
tbf the reason she was bumped off the show is pure conjecture by the Mirror...journalistic innuendo....Lily herself says she was bumped because they got Paget-Brown on, and that was a fairly long and now important interview, in that it was there that he got forced into saying "they didnt even want sprinklers"
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
ive never know a disaster where the death count has been restricted only to those who have been officially identified - the media always goes with "x number of people feared dead". The estimates seem to be coming from emergency service workers - so pretty credible. Also it may well be that many of the dead are not reported as missing - whole families may have been killed and there were probably a lot of people living there unofficially. This smacks of the sort of stuff they do in authoritarian regimes - and its only likely to fuel the anger.
Treacle Toes
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Why are you telling me? Call the mirror and tell them? Why not leave your extremely important comment in the comments section on that page?
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5t3IIa
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We're being socially engineered to not riot.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'll bet the likes of Paget-Brown have got police protection at their home(s).
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
the government's response is fucking awful. Its clear there have been major failings in the management and that residents were ignored - yet their response does not reflect this at all. All we are getting is bland words and a blank refusal to talk to the people affected. May is acting as if its some freak weather event thats killed three people in the outer Hebrides. There is no immediate action, no announcement of an immediate and urgent review of fire safety in tower blocs, no solid commitments to the victims, nothing - just blandishments. They really are callous cunts - all they are doing is trying to keep a lid on it and save their own sorry skins. Listen to fucking ledsome here - vile robot -
Florkleshnort
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Wow, I can't imagine the emotions that family must have been through!
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
As if the victims haven't already suffered enough.....
fakeplasticgirl
Keirleader
I suspect May will only visit those who are still unconscious...
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