Gammon is not racist

[Spymaster]

I agree, it's clear to me that non-white people can be racist towards other non-white people but less clear whether non-whites can be racist towards whites.

If the Indian MD of a London firm refuses to employ white people, is he being racist?

 

[Spymaster]

Playing the man consistently now.

He's just wounded and lashing out, bless him.

 

[Spymaster]

I agree, it's clear to me that non-white people can be racist towards other non-white people but less clear whether non-whites can be racist towards whites.

If an Asian cricket team avoid taking on white players, is that racist?

 

[lucillemara]

what about black on black crime? why can they say it but I can't?

 

[cupid_stunt]

what about black on black crime? why can they say it but I can't?

You just did.

 

[8ball]

what about black on black crime? why can they say it but I can't?

Say what?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

what about black on black crime? why can they say it but I can't?

Liberals don’t care about that. They only leap out of their chairs if it’s white on black murders.

 

[lucillemara]

wow it's really like that eh

 

[lucillemara]

does the white tears mug make you cry

 

[A380]

What if an Inuit child called an Australian First Nation child a wanker in class and then the Australian First Nation child’s mum (adopted) who was Han Chinese went round to the Korean teacher of the class where it happened and called them a knob, so the teacher went to the mum’s best friend, who, strangely enough, was the teacher’s neighbor and happened to be Native Canadian and said they were a cunt.

Would that be racist?

 

[TopCat]

does the white tears mug make you cry

I smell rat

 

[8ball]

What if an Inuit child called an Australian First Nation child a wanker in class and then the Australian First Nation child’s mum (adopted) who was Han Chinese went round to the Korean teacher of the class where it happened and called them a knob, so the teacher went to the mum’s best friend, who, strangely enough, was the teacher’s neighbor and happened to be Native Canadian and said they were a cunt.

Would that be racist?

 

[Pickman's model]

You just did.

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

 

[A380]

So, if:

1: You can’t be racist against white people.

2: A very large proportion of French people are white.

Then:

Is it OK for us to hate the French again?

 

[lucillemara]

ITT
races are platonic essences
materialism is liberal
white people have it bad too you know

 

[cupid_stunt]

So, if:

1: You can’t be racist against white people.

2: A very large proportion of French people are white.

Then:

Is it OK for us to hate the French again?

Of course, it's all part of the 'love-hate relationship'.

We love to hate them, they hate to love us.

 

[planetgeli]

Reference to skin colour or ethnicity in an attempt to infer characterisation or demonisation based on such is racism. It doesn’t ‘appear to be that’ or ‘look like that’, it is. That is not to take anything away from the power dynamic that is hugely important in looking at the history of white colonialism and political superiority of white people over PoC, nor is it to detract from the incidences of simple prejudice against PoC against which the racism suffered by white people pales (see what I did there?) into insignificance. But, to repeat myself, reference to skin colour or ethnicity, in an attempt to infer characterisation or demonisation based on such, is racism.

And, btw, gammon is simply a shit term. Call a cunt a cunt ffs. Some real liberal shit going on in this thread.

 

[JuanTwoThree]

On a historical note, my recollection is that everybody used to say 'racially prejudiced' and then the word 'racist' became more popular. If there has been some change in the meaning and so there is a difference then I think the one of power imbalance is it. But lots of people use both terms in much the same way.

Which are the lazy generalisations that I hear every other day about Brits?

 

[mojo pixy]

An african-american person I know well (not a friend but someone I have to work with) during a disagreement about something unrelated to ethnicity, rolls their eyes, looks me up and down, suck their teeth and mutters, ''Fucking white people...''

Not as a joke, in all seriousness.

Not racist? Just racially prejudiced? Not a hate crime, just hate?

 

[lucillemara]

that must have been traumatic

 

[Wilf]

What if an Inuit child called an Australian First Nation child a wanker in class and then the Australian First Nation child’s mum (adopted) who was Han Chinese went round to the Korean teacher of the class where it happened and called them a knob, so the teacher went to the mum’s best friend, who, strangely enough, was the teacher’s neighbor and happened to be Native Canadian and said they were a cunt.

Dunno, but can I pitch the Mini Series?

 

[8ball]

ITT
races are platonic essences
materialism is liberal
white people have it bad too you know

 

[8ball]

An african-american person I know well (not a friend but someone I have to work with) during a disagreement about something unrelated to ethnicity, rolls their eyes, looks me up and down, suck their teeth and mutters, ''Fucking white people...''

I think I know him. He’s usually right on that score tbf.

 

[A380]

Dunno, but can I pitch the Mini Series?

Love thy Neighbors?

 

[Wilf]

Love thy Neighbors?

My mother in law is so intersectional...

 

[Magnus McGinty]

wow it's really like that eh

Show me the liberal outrage about crime committed within black communities and I’ll retract.

 

[lucillemara]

literal breitbart talking points

 

[Spymaster]

belboid

Give an example of a racially prejudiced statement that's not racist.

If an Indian racially abuses a black man and the black man responds by calling the Indian a paki, has the black man been racist too or just the Indian?

When you're ready, mate

 

[mojo pixy]

that must have been traumatic

It was something rude, right? No more traumatic than other things I've been called, less probably because my identity as a ''white person'' isn't that strong. But it felt racist.

I think I know him. He’s usually right on that score tbf.

Not a him in this case. Interesting assumption though.

 

[Wilf]

An african-american person I know well (not a friend but someone I have to work with) during a disagreement about something unrelated to ethnicity, rolls their eyes, looks me up and down, suck their teeth and mutters, ''Fucking white people...''

Not as a joke, in all seriousness.

Not racist? Just racially prejudiced? Not a hate crime, just hate?

Liked, not least for avoiding the term 'co-worker'.