Gammon is not racist

[planetgeli]

You beat me to it. Traveller irrelevant ffs

Milliseconds Magnus, milliseconds. Like your edit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Love thy Neighbors?

Bless this house

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Milliseconds Magnus, milliseconds. Like your edit.

What about my second edit? Keep out of my way you irrelevant twit.

 

[Ax^]

Maybe you should re-read the fairly recent thread about the white thieving scumbag getting murdered by the white pensioner?
Of course it wasn’t framed in terms of race. Only liberal dicks do that.

*look at the daily mail*

 

[Magnus McGinty]

This place is a liberal shitheap. You guys crack on. I’ll laugh when fascism arrives despite me being dragged away also.

 

[planetgeli]

What about my second edit? Keep out of my way you irrelevant twit.

Which way are you going? Actually, it’s not hard to tell. Twit, lol etc. Edit - are you pissed?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Maybe you should re-read the fairly recent thread about the white thieving scumbag getting murdered by the white pensioner?
Of course it wasn’t framed in terms of race. Only liberal dicks do that.

So...where on that thread did you use the terminology/description 'White victims of violence in their own communities'?

Or are you admitting to essentially using 'working class' as short hand to mean White when you are discussing violence in communities where the perp and victim are White?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Let's try this one again though: If an Indian racially abuses a black man and the black man responds by calling the Indian a paki, has the black man been racist too or just the Indian?

Don't hold your breath. He's avoiding this one like the plague. If you keep pressing him on it, he's likely to explode, and tell you you drive a shit car.

 

[ddraig]

This place is a liberal shitheap. You guys crack on. I’ll laugh when fascism arrives despite me being dragged away also.

plenty of places out there for you

 

[Magnus McGinty]

So...where on that thread did you use the terminology/description 'White victims of violence in their own communities'?

Or are you admitting to essentially using 'working class' as short hand to mean White when you are discussing violence in communities where the perp and victim are White?

Where have you discussed black victims of crime by black perps?

 

[belboid]

Where?

Quote please?

christ, do you forget your own posts that quickly?

Give an example of a racially prejudiced statement that's not racist.

That says, quite specifically, that a (racially) prejudiced term is enough for it to be racist. It is the entire basis of your argument.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Which way are you going? Actually, it’s not hard to tell. Twit, lol etc. Edit - are you pissed?

Just keep out of my way. The irony of you turning that into evidence of me being racist is beyond the pale.

 

[planetgeli]

Just keep out of my way. The irony of you turning that into evidence of me being racist is beyond the pale.

Keep out of your way on a message board???

I’ll give you that using ‘beyond the pale’ and ‘racist’ and ‘irony’ in the same sentence is indeed, erm, interesting though.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Where have you discussed black victims of crime by black perps?

SO you have no answer so ask me this question?

You have basically outed yourself as an IDpoler on this thread. Like you do all the cocking time. You attack others for framing shit around race but do it yourself...and no, 'Working class' doesn't mean White no matter how many times you use it to imply as such. It would be great if a such a learned, hard left, class hero, freedom fighter like yourself could get to grips with this basic fucking truth

 

[Saul Goodman]

That says, quite specifically, that a (racially) prejudiced term is enough for it to be racist. It is the entire basis of your argument.

No it isn't. He specifically stated that it was racist when it was being used as a racist term.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

SO you have no answer so ask me this question?

You have basically outed yourself as an IDpoler on this thread. Like you do all the cocking time. You attack others for framing shit around race but do it yourself...and no, 'Working class' doesn't mean White no matter how many times you use it to imply as such. It would be great if a such a learned, hard left, class hero, freedom fighter like yourself could get to grips with this basic fucking truth

You don’t talk about black on black crime at all, do you?
Don’t forget, it’s considered racist for me to do so, so it’s entirely your ball park.
You said I didn’t discuss white on white crime yet you’ve been given an example of it this year.
Where’s your examples?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Keep out of your way on a message board???

I’ll give you that using ‘beyond the pale’ and ‘racist’ and ‘irony’ in the same sentence is indeed, erm, interesting though.

No it isn’t. You’re just being a dick.

 

[Spymaster]

So this ...

Give an example of a racially prejudiced statement that's not racist.

... is me saying that prejudice alone is enough to make something racist, in your world? Even though in your previous post you said that I didn't say that???? (Don't think nobody noticed you've now stuck "racially" in there too)

Are you absolutely fucking mad? You're absolutely all over the place.

Let's also note that you've been unable to provide such an example.

Look, you've been making shit up and trying to muddy the waters when you're busted. Why not just hold you're hands up now and we'll move on?

Otherwise answer the questions.

 

[Spymaster]

Don't hold your breath. He's avoiding this one like the plague. If you keep pressing him on it, he's likely to explode, and tell you you drive a shit car.

I know, it's just a fucking joke now.

 

[8ball]

I’ll give you that using ‘beyond the pale’ and ‘racist’ and ‘irony’ in the same sentence is indeed, erm, interesting though.

Freudians everywhere tonight.
Etymologists less so.

 

[Spymaster]

No it isn't. He specifically stated that it was racist when it was being used as a racist term.

Ta da!

It seems belboid is the only one who doesn't get it.

 

[belboid]

So this ...

... is me saying that prejudice alone is enough to make something racist, in your world? Even though in your previous post you said that I didn't say that???? (Don't think nobody noticed you've now stuck "racially" in there too)

'racially' was clearly referenced in my previous post, ('a specific kind of prejudice') so there is nothing added. Sorry if you were not capable of adding two and two together. I'll try to remember that in future.

So stop wriggling and tell me why you believe 'racial prejudice' is enough to make something racist.

Ta da!

It seems belboid is the only one who doesn't get it.

Nope, its you two, I'm afraid. Once again, I'd ask you to answer the above question without making use of a circular argument.

Here's a clue - if your answer is 'it's racist when it's being used in a racist way' - that's a circular argument. Of no mre value than defining 'blue' as being 'something that is blue'.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

'racially' was clearly referenced in my previous post, ('a specific kind of prejudice') so there is nothing added. Sorry if you were not capable of adding two and two together. I'll try to remember that in future.

So stop wriggling and tell me why you believe 'racial prejudice' is enough to make something racist.

Nope, its you two, I'm afraid. Once again, I'd ask you to answer the above question without making use of a circular argument.

Here's a clue - if your answer is 'it's racist when it's being used in a racist way' - that's a circular argument. Of no mre value than defining 'blue' as being 'something that is blue'.

But all kinds of words are only racist when being used in a racist way. I'll leave you to think of your own examples. So we have to think of context and intent when working out meaning. Hoodathunk?

 

[belboid]

But all kinds of words are only racist when being used in a racist way.

It's not a very useful definition of 'racist' is it?

It's racist if it's racist.

Doesn't really get us very far.

 

[planetgeli]

Nope, its you two, I'm afraid.

Pretty sure there’s more than two if you count back?

 

[Spymaster]

Here's a clue - if your answer is 'it's racist when it's being used in a racist way' - that's a circular argument. Of no mre value than defining 'blue' as being 'something that is blue'.

Oh god . The term is racist when it's being used as a derogatory way to describe white people. In THAT context. Is that simple enough for you?

You've wibbled and wobbled about all kinds of silliness; made up some daft comparison with domestic abuse; and now you're going to pretend ... what?

Answer those questions and I reckon the penny will drop for you. Seriously. Just try it and see if you have a lightbulb moment.

 

[Saul Goodman]

But all kinds of words are only racist when being used in a racist way. I'll leave you to think of your own examples. So we have to think of context and intent when working out meaning. Hoodathunk?

This reasoning is apparently beyond the remit of his reasoning.

 

[Spymaster]

It's racist if it's racist.

It's racist if it's used in a racially defamatory context!

Fuck.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Answer those questions and I reckon the penny will drop for you. Seriously. Just try it and see if you have a lightbulb moment.

The penny has, quite obviously, already dropped. Hence the ad homminess of recent posts.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's not a very useful definition of 'racist' is it?

It's racist if it's racist.

Doesn't really get us very far.

Not very far quite good for lbj