Fate of EU citizens in the UK post Brexit

[Pickman's model]

theres a link there that lets you read it electronically = page 39 onwards

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there were of course internal borders for many years as people from the six counties could be barred from entering great britain

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I have just been pulled off a train entering Sweden because of my British passport. My Danish legitimation in accompaniment is not valid apparently. And they are not processing my residency until august in accordance with my date of birth.
Only problem is my girlfriend and dog live in Sweden. Fuck Boris. Fuck brexit and every fucking idiot that voted for this shit. Fucking tools.

 

[Pickman's model]

Because if she didn't she may lose her right to residency. The whole Brexit thing was quite well publicised, there were leaflets and all sorts of stuff.

sadly not everyone reads urban75

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's quite possible that, as she's lived here since she was an infant, she didn't realise she needed to contact anyone.

She may have assumed, incorrectly but quite understandably, that she was already entitled to live and work in the UK and that Brexit didn't effect that.

Yes she may have done, I have a customer who is Austrian who was denied entry to the UK last week from Spain as she hadn't sorted residency, it had never crossed her mind. Her husband and three kids are all UK citizens, she is dual Austrian and US. She owns a business in the UK and has a house here. It was only cos she had a US passport that she was allowed in. So you can see how it happens, but when it comes to it Brexit has been fairly well publicised so you would have thought she may have looked in to it at some point in the past five years.

 

[Pickman's model]

I have just been pulled off a train entering Sweden because of my British passport. My Danish legitimation in accompaniment is not valid apparently. And they are not processing my residency until august in accordance with my date of birth.
Only problem is my girlfriend and dog live in Sweden. Fuck Boris. Fuck brexit and every fucking idiot that voted for this shit. Fucking tools.

by your danish legitimation do you mean you have danish citizenship?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

sadly not everyone reads urban75

Can't say I blame them.

 

[andysays]

Yes she may have done, I have a customer who is Austrian who was denied entry to the UK last week from Spain as she hadn't sorted residency, it had never crossed her mind. Her husband and three kids are all UK citizens, she is dual Austrian and US. She owns a business in the UK and has a house here. It was only cos she had a US passport that she was allowed in. So you can see how it happens, but when it comes to it Brexit has been fairly well publicised so you would have thought she may have looked in to it at some point in the past five years.

Maybe it would have been better all round if she had, at some point in the past five years, thought "I wonder if I need to do anything in response to Brexit?" but given what we know of her circumstances, I'm not going to blame her for not realising

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

by your danish legitimation do you mean you have danish citizenship?

I have permanent residency in Denmark but they need a permit card too apparently. This will be processed in August according to the letter I received last year from Danish authorities just before Brexit. Got myself searched and detained for a short period too. Ffs.
Guess which UK ward I was registered under as my last postal address before I moved to DK should I need to speak to “my “ MP about the matter. I have no chance of getting a reply from that soppy cunt*.

*uxbridge and south ruislip.

 

[Pickman's model]

I have permanent residency in Denmark but they need a permit card too apparently. This will be processed in August according to the letter I received last year from Danish authorities just before Brexit. Got myself searched and detained for a short period too. Ffs.
Guess which UK ward I was registered under as my last postal address before I moved to DK should I need to speak to “my “ MP about the matter. I have no chance of getting a reply that soppy cunt*.

*uxbridge and south ruislip.

don't know whether to laugh or cry

 

[tim]

EU nationals have not had the right to settle here for 40 years.


This is an unfortunate one. She says she has called 100 times in three weeks and not got through, what about the preceding five years, did she try to call then?

That's why I said adult life. I'm a decade older than her, and was living and working without restrictions in France and Italy in my mid-twenties.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Maybe it would have been better all round if she had, at some point in the past five years, thought "I wonder if I need to do anything in response to Brexit?" but given what we know of her circumstances, I'm not going to blame her for not realising

She has since applied and been told it will be fine, she got through first time.

 

[Supine]

Ministers under fire over 69p-a-minute helpline for EU citizens

Helpline for people trying to prove their right to remain in country after Brexit charged £10.35 for 15 minutes

www.theguardian.com

 

[The39thStep]

Ministers under fire over 69p-a-minute helpline for EU citizens

Helpline for people trying to prove their right to remain in country after Brexit charged £10.35 for 15 minutes

www.theguardian.com

Disgraceful

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

This about sums it up.

 

[Gramsci]

Maybe it would have been better all round if she had, at some point in the past five years, thought "I wonder if I need to do anything in response to Brexit?" but given what we know of her circumstances, I'm not going to blame her for not realising

You have been posting up several post which make me think you are. Why are you on this thread?

Some of us here have partners and friends who are affected by this.

Your posts here are just winding me up

 

[andysays]

You have been posting up several post which make me think you are. Why are you on this thread?

Some of us here have partners and friends who are affected by this.

Your posts here are just winding me up

I don't have to justify to you why I'm posting on this or any other thread.

But as editor's still unexplained quote of my post from nearly a month ago demonstrates, I too have friends who are affected by this, whose experience isn't the same as that which some on this thread seem be suggesting is pretty much universal.

Which is not, of course, to minimise the problems that some people have had and continue to have.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

To be fair, in the case of DK, they always stated that permanent residency should be accompanied by ID cards and it was illegal to not have it on your person. Which when I enquired about getting a card was told they are not issuing them for (then) European applicants. A catch 22 of priti patel proportions.
Further, have not been able to apply for Irish citizenship as the office for handling such applications in Dublin has been closed since last year due to corona. Will probably take a trip to the embassy here this week to see if they can help.

Why not apply for Citizenship here you probably ask? Criminal records for plant ownership and run ins with pegida. Not going to spunk my money and time up the wall, just to be refused.

 

[Spymaster]

why do you think so? it’s perfectly normal to never apply for those things. and if you’ve grown up here since you were a baby, you could easily think yourself as British and not have it in mind that you weren’t considered to be by the Home Office

I’d have thought the opposite. Surely if you know that you were born in an EU state, don’t have a Brit passport, and know that the UK is leaving the EU; you check out your status?

 

[editor]

I too have friends who are affected by this, whose experience isn't the same as that which some on this thread seem be suggesting is pretty much universal.

Handy that, given your pro Brexit stance.

 

[Pickman's model]

I’d have thought the opposite. Surely if you know that you were born in an EU state, don’t have a Brit passport, and know that the UK is leaving the EU; you check out your status?

there were no eu states 40 years ago

 

[Spymaster]

there were no eu states 40 years ago

This post is of no significance

 

[Raheem]

I’d have thought the opposite. Surely if you know that you were born in an EU state, don’t have a Brit passport, and know that the UK is leaving the EU; you check out your status?

Definitely, and if you leave it a bit late, you can hardly complain about being drowned in the Thames, can you?

 

[andysays]

Handy that, given your pro Brexit stance.

What are you suggesting?

 

[editor]

What are you suggesting?

That you're more likely to forward positive messages.

 

[Raheem]

What are you suggesting?

It all comes across a bit

 

[ska invita]

I don't have to justify to you why I'm posting on this or any other thread.

But as editor's still unexplained quote of my post from nearly a month ago demonstrates, I too have friends who are affected by this, whose experience isn't the same as that which some on this thread seem be suggesting is pretty much universal.

Which is not, of course, to minimise the problems that some people have had and continue to have.

worth perhaps reading the first post on this thread
the vast majority of people will be fine
but a percentage won't.
that was always going to be the case
and even 1% of 3.5 million is 35,000 people
if it is only 1% that would be a huge success by the states standards. a disaster nonetheless for those affected
current information (a few pages back) suggests we are looking at hundreds of thouands unregistered, not tens.
the important thing for everyone is to support where we can and resist evictions, denial of health treatment, and deportations etc. not pretend it isn't happening because it feels personally inconvenient.

 

[Spymaster]

Definitely, and if you leave it a bit late, you can hardly complain about being drowned in the Thames, can you?

I think that would be a little excessive but in life, if you don't do what you should do, things often get complicated.

 

[Raheem]

I think that would be a little excessive but in life, if you don't do what you should do, things often get complicated.

Ok, on refection, the Oose.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think that would be a little excessive but in life, if you don't do what you should do, things often get complicated.

things are never that complicated. it's just adults can't be arsed to explain them to children.

 

[The39thStep]

That you're more likely to forward positive messages.

Than negative ones do you mean?