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Leclerc drops 3 grid places for impeding Norris​

Charles Leclerc will start his home Grand Prix from sixth on the grid after being handed a 3-place grid drop for impeding Lando Norris in Q3. As well as hearing from both drivers and their team representatives, the stewards reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video, timing data, team radio and in-car video evidence. Leclerc had finished his final lap of Q3 and was in the Turn 4 through Turn 10 complex, while Norris was on a fast lap and caught the Ferrari in the middle of the tunnel and was clearly impeded, deemed the stewards. Both drivers agreed that there was little that Leclerc could have safely done tunnel to avoid impeding the McLarens, given the difficulty in vision due to the light entering and in the tunnel and the change of lines from one side of the tunnel to the other.

In fact, the stewards observed that Leclerc reacted in a sensible way to a blue flag displayed by the marshals, but at this point it was too late. However, the Stewards reviewed team radio, and Leclerc's team failed to give him any warning about Norris' approach until the Briton was already directly behind him. Further, the discussion during the preceding portion of the track was entirely about competing drivers, not the traffic behind, which is critical task at this track. The stewards feel that there is much that Leclerc could have done prior to the tunnel to avoid the impeding had he received warning from his team at an appropriate time, especially considering that Norris' approach was clear on the marshalling system.

Consequently, the stewards considered that the impeding was unnecessary and having reviewed all the preceding unnecessarily impeding penalties in the past few years, in every case, the actions, or inaction of the team did not mitigate the unnecessary impeding. As a result the Stewards imposed the usual penalty of a three-place grid drop.

[So it was the teams fault again, Leclerc must be getting relly pissed off with the Ferrari teams lack of action]
 

Revised starting grid​


1.​
Verstappen​
Red Bull​
2.​
Alonso​
Aston Martin​
3.​
Ocon​
Alpine​
4.​
Sainz​
Ferrari​
5.​
Hamilton​
Mercedes​
6.​
Leclerc​
Ferrari​
7.​
Gasly​
Alpine​
8.​
Russell​
Mercedes​
9.​
Tsunoda​
AlphaTauri​
10.​
Norris​
McLaren​
11.​
Piastri​
McLaren​
12.​
De Vries​
AlphaTauri​
13.​
Albon​
Williams​
14.​
Stroll​
Aston Martin​
15.​
Bottas​
Alfa Romeo​
16.​
Sargeant​
Williams​
17.​
Magnussen​
Haas​
18.​
Hulkenberg​
Haas​
19.​
Zhou​
Alfa Romeo​
20.​
Perez​
Red Bull​
 

Red Bull’s floor is ‘so curved you can’t figure it out’ says rival after photos emerge

Sergio Perez’s crash in qualifying for the Monaco Grand Prix provided Red Bull’s rivals with a vital opportunity to study the design of the RB19’s floor. His car was lifted from the crash scene at Sainte Devote by a crane, allowing nearby photographers to snap the RB19’s usually concealed underside. Red Bull have been the class of the field since the current technical regulations were introduced at the beginning of last season, and their floor design is believed to hold the secrets to their speed.
However one designer said the sheer sophistication of Red Bull’s floor layout will make it hard to copy even now they’ve seen it. “It’s so complex that on a 2D photo, because of the way the light is, it’s so curved, you can’t figure any of it out,” said Williams’ head of vehicle performance Dave Robson. “I guess it’s just coincidental they do it all like that because that’s how they get the downforce. But it doesn’t half make it difficult to copy!”

The underside of Mercedes’ car was also seen after Lewis Hamilton crashed in final practice. But their trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin said their dominant rivals will be more irked by having their secrets shown to the world. “I suspect they’re probably more annoyed about their car being left in the sky than we would be about ours,” said Shovlin. "To be honest with these regulations the most important bit is the bit that you don’t normally get to see. So the teams will be all over those kind of photographs. Monaco is a good opportunity to get that kind of shot.”

The tight restrictions on weight distribution in F1 today means the sight of cars being lifted into the air by cranes doesn’t reveal the same information it once did, said Shovlin. “Years ago, when your weight distribution could be anywhere between 48% and 43 you paid a bit more attention to where people are. If they lifted a car, you could sort of try and work out where the centre of gravity was. These days you’ve got a pretty narrow window to work in by the regulations anyway.”
 

Alpine BUNFIGHT continues as Szafnauer issues blunt response to Rossi

Alpine team principal Otmar Szafnauer has responded bluntly to recent criticism from team CEO Laurent Rossi, claiming: "I know what I'm doing." The French team have not enjoyed a great start to the 2023 season, scoring only 14 points from the first five races. That has happened despite optimism with their driver line-up, after Pierre Gasly was recruited from AlphaTauri to form an all-French partnership with Esteban Ocon. Rossi criticised his team's start, claiming they have been "amateurish" in 2023 so far and that the points return is "not acceptable".

Asked about those comments, Szafnauer said: "We reflected on his comments. F1 is a tough business and you’ve got to get everything right. I’ve been doing this for 25 years and I know what it takes."

Szafnauer: Success can take time
Alpine have struggled for pace so far this season and already look like they'll struggle to match last season's efforts, where they ended the campaign fourth in the constructor's championship behind Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mercedes. Gasly and Ocon have managed only five points-scoring finishes between them from five races.

Both drivers' best finishes this season have been eighth with Ocon scoring that in Saudi Arabia while Gasly got eighth in Miami. They have been overhauled so far by Aston Martin and McLaren but Szafnauer says they are still in the early days of their plan to get to the top and has cited Mercedes as an example to follow when it comes to biding time.

"We set a 100-race plan. We’re 26 in and have 74 left," he added. "I’m gonna see Laurent here. Reasonable people with the same information will come to the same conclusion. Mercedes bought a championship-winning team (Brawn in 2009). It took them five years to win again."
 
And the crowd goes wild as the battle for, er... 15th hots up.

I'm going to declare this snorefest to be the world's most boring race ever in the hope that the gods prove me wrong.

(but I doubt it)
 
amazed you did not get caught up with the border

heard the passport system crashed yesterday so that not bad going at all
 
amazed you did not get caught up with the border

heard the passport system crashed yesterday so that not bad going at all

Been in France since Thursday so missed that.

Heard an announcement at Cannes station that someone had had a mishap on the railway between Nice and Monaco so that will have caused a lot of problems for people getting there.
 
Just a casual observer so answer me this. Monaco appears to be shit every year? But enjoys some sort of special status (completely divorced from being a tax haven where a lot of drivers live) that makes it untouchable.

Is it untouchable? Will this borefest go on forever?
 
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