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F1 2016

Fair doos i wasn't trying to achieve results before but now you've said that i'll give it a go. Let me just turn this magic screw that makes us faster than everyone else. Dunno why i didn't do it sooner to be honest.

I'm sure whoever replaces us will make an instant difference somehow. Its not like its an ongoing process.

/sarcasm
In my view Sergio Marchionne is the problem not the solution, he is trying to micro-manage the Ferrari F1 team while at the same time as being the CEO of Fiat Chrysler and the Ferrari road car company and Chairman of CNH Industries. Loosing James Allison was the worst thing that could have happened to Ferrari F1 and he left as a direct result of the actions of Sergio Marchionne.
 
His wife's death had a little to do with it as well.

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I think the timing is interesting and I think we will have to wait for him to speak/write to find out how much his wife's death played a part (I'm sure it played some part).

According to news reports he left at the exact time as Sergio Marchionne decided that he was going to "sit in" on the F1 teams technical meetings, as Technical Director I'm sure Allison wasn't happy about that. The summer break was coming up the following week so it seemed a strange time to chose. His kids are not really young I think two of them are at university and just his youngest (15 or 17 from memory) was still living at the family home full time. He did take time off after her death but then decided to return to work commuting back and forth to the UK.

Most pundits in F1 seemed to think that he was the most likely person to become the next team principle at Ferrari, not a job many people would walk away from, but I'm sure we will read all about it in a book when he retires.

Meanwhile in the news
It seems that the man who was world champion for about 20 seconds back in 2008 has announced he is to retire, Felipe Massa has told reporters that 2016 will be his final year as a Formula 1 driver. I've always had a soft-spot for Massa and feel that his career was always blighted by Senna and Schumacher. Senna is still seen as a god in Brazil so Massa would have had to win more championships than him to ever be seen as a great by Brazilian F1 fans and when he was in the best car, the Ferrari, he always had to play second fiddle to Schumacher.

I remember the excitement back in 2002 when the young Brazilian first raced in F1, he got into the points in only his second race driving for Peter sauber's team and was quickly snapped up by Ferrari as their test driver, I wonder how many world championships he would have won if he hadn't been paired with Schumacher. He will have driven in 250 Grand Prix by the end of the season and that's no mean achievement.

Who will replace Massa
News reports here are saying Felipe Nasr (Brazilian can be a little like that, always wanting to replace one Brazilian with another ;) ), but maybe that's not as left-field as it seems, he would take a lot of sponsorship money with him, something Jenson wouldn't do, Williams would have to pay for Jenson to drive. A few months ago I thought Jenson would be a shoo-in at Williams but now I'm not sure. Perez is an option if he doesn't stay at Force India but he may think Renault are a better bet long term. As mentioned above, Bottos will be announced as staying with Williams on a two year contract extension over the Monza weekend I believe, so maybe the team will plump for a youngster. Still interesting times in the drivers market it seems.
 
Max has been a warning by the FIA about his driving standards: Italian GP: Max Verstappen given 'gentle warning' by FIA
Its an interesting headline "gentle warning" :) Charlie Whiting told Verstappen he risked disqualification or a black and white flag for such behavior in future, that seem more like a stern warning, but maybe he said it in a very quite voice ;) Reading the press during the week it is interesting to see that some drivers believe Max did nothing wrong while others say he is dangerous. I think the indecent at the first corner was fine but moving "late" to cover someone over-taking while flat-out on the straight, is a very different kettle of fish. Again this state of affairs with some F1 rules is because they are subjective and rulings by the stewards are inconsistent.

Some driver comments on the issue made at Monza this weekend:
"We have seen it for a long time, the penalties they are not very consistent. One race you get one for that and another you don't. I'm sure in the drivers' briefing again there's going to be discussion about that we need more consistency. "I don't know exactly what's allowed and what's not. "It would be nice to have much clearer rules and consistent penalties, but let's see" said Valtteri Bottas.

Carlos Sainz concurred saying "since I have been in F1 consistency of penalties has not been good enough".

Fernando Alonso also admitted that following his contact with Nico Hulkenberg in the pit lane during the Spa race, he was unsure whether he would be penalized or not. "We all agree that steward consistency is poor" he said. "Even in my pitlane exit with Nico [Hulkenberg], we exit side-by-side and touch a little bit, I have no penalty, maybe in the next race I have a penalty. The next couple of laps I didn't know which steward I had this in race! I could be penalized, Nico could be penalized, both could be penalized. That is the problem we have now".

Jenson Button "We all understand that consistency is the most important thing, but it's also very difficult to get that because you're not going to get the same stewards at every race".

Sebastian Vettel "We ended up developing too many regulations, and therefore because taking every scenario as a different one ended up with every scenario being treated different. It's impossible to be 100% consistent in that regard...it would be much better if it was more in our hands".

Is Charlie looking for a new job
According to Auto Bild Charlie was touting himself around at last weekend Spa race looking for a job with one of the F1 teams. The report said that Whiting, 64, held talks with various teams last weekend at Spa. Whiting's Formula One career dates back to when he was a mechanic for Bernie Ecclestone's Brahbam team. He became F1's technical delegate in 1998.

Auto Bild also claims that he became race director in 1997 due to Ron Dennis threatening to pull out of the sport if Whiting joined Flavio Briatore at Benetton :eek: (I don't remember reading that in any F1 biography's, but I still have loads to read)

Monza signs 3 year deal
FOM and Monza have have agreed a deal to keep the Italian race at the circuit for 3 more years, it was announced at a news conference with Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi on Friday. The contract hasn't been signed off yet as Imola are taking legal action the deal. The Italian GP is the oldest race on the F1 calendar and the Monza circuit has held motor racing events since 1921.

Bernie said "Regretfully, legally, we can't sign it here but more important is that we have an agreement thanks to our lawyers and we are getting all the small details sorted. There is no problem in having the race here. The contract will be for three years but I hope we are here for 100 years".

Ferrari have used all their engine tokens
The team have announced that they have used all their allocation in upgrades for this weekends home GP. Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen each have a new internal combustion engine, turbocharger, MGU-H, energy store and control electronics and it is expected that they will use them for this race, they are part of their season allocation and therefore no penalties are expected.

Sauber has new head of aerodynamics
Nicolas Hennel de Beaupreau has a new job, as head of aerodynamics at Sauber Motorsport AG. Hennel de Beaupreau has had a impressive career with Lotus (2013-2016), Ferrari (2009-2013), McLaren (2006-2009), Renault (2003-2006), Ferrari (2000-2003) and Benetton (1997-2000). Sauber has been recruiting of late as it fights to score a point to retake 10th place from Manor F1 in the Constructors’ Championship.
 
Good Morning :) Lewis seems to be flying here at Monza and with Pirelli reducing the tyre pressures that can only make it better for his race but makes a one stop unlikely.
 
Sergio Marchionne gave an interesting interview to Sky that I hope will be shown again during the pre-race show. He basically said, We have not and are not going to reach our targets, we have failed to develop the car well enough over the season and we have made changes to address that situation. Does he mean by the last comment that Ferrari sacked James Allison?

I can't find a transcript yet but I'll post a link to the interview when it appears online later today.
 
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Sergio Marchionne gave an interesting interview to Sky that I hope will be shown again during the pre-race show. He basically said, We have not and are not going to reach our targets, we have failed to develop the car well enough over the season and we have made changes to address that situation. Does he mean by the last comment that Ferrari sacked James Allison?

I can't find a transcript yet but I'll post a link to the interview when it appears online later today.
Already been shown in the pre-qualifying show.
 
So that puts an end to speculation about Perez's drive next year, he is staying at Force India :thumbs:
 
Maybe the rumors about Felipe Nasr aren't that far off the mark, but I'd be surprised, don't think he has been a stand-out driver so far this season.
 
Its being reported here that Formula 1 will be sold off by CVC as early as next week (I wonder if they will cover this during the Monza GP TV show). Bernie Ecclestone told German trade magazine auto motor und that Liberty Media are buying the company for $8.5 billion and the deal will be signed next Tuesday. When asked what his roll could be Bernie is reported to have answered "I will do what I have always done. What role I play is my decision". I can't find any comment on the interweb from Liberty Media or CVC.

Edit, I have found a copy of this story in English now from Reuters
 
Despite Bernie's comments about the sale of F1 on the grid, the Brazilian commentators are saying the sale is done and also that the boss of Formula E Alejandro Agag will be taking over from Bernie :hmm:

Edit, Sky are now also confirming the sale
 
LOLOLOLO
I've just heard a Brazilian commentator speaking Portuguese trying to explain a translation error between a French driver [Pierre Gasly] and Spanish TV which didn't take the confusion much further forward :facepalm:
 
Many thanks for the links. In the event I was able to watch it nearly live on channel 4+1.

The quality of Hammy's start was shockingly bad. Bad, as in my ma could have done better and she's been dead for 15 years.

Eta: I did watch practice and qualification on my mobile. That's how you cane 8gb of data in 2 days.
 
It seems that the Williams driver line up for 2017 will be Bottas and Lance Stroll providing he gets a super license. There are also a couple of other rumors doing the rounds, the first is that Ocon will be driving for Renault in 2017 [he is a Mercedes contracted driver so would they let him driver for a different manufacture, he is French so?], this brings us on to the second rumor, Manor F1 is up for sale again.

Eddie Jordan has been talking to the German press saying that Bernie is about to announce he is retiring. I'm not sure if he will stay or go [he is owns about 15% of the company in personal shares and in his family trust], it is clear that he wanted CVC to sell to the Qatar group, who have said they would keep him on.

The sale of Sliverstone is in the news again, months ago the Jaguar/Land Rover group were the front runners but then Porsche, who runs a track day company from the circuit pointed out that they have a veto in any other car company using the track for more than 45 days a year in their contract with the BRDC. It now seems that Jonathan Palmer is interested in buying the circuit, he is chief executive of MotorSport Vision who also own Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Cadwell Park and Snetterton.

For those who like little facts, how about this. Alonso got the fastest lap during the Monza GP, did you know that the last time Honda got a fastest lap with their power-unit/engine was 24 years ago, the last one was the 1992 Portuguese Grand Prix when Ayrton Senna got the fastest lap also driving a McLaren-Honda.
 
Feliz Dia da Independência :):thumbs:

Will he won't he

Lots of differing headlines today about the sale of F1 and Bernie's future. Bernie has told the press today that he has been asked to stay on for 3 years but only yesterday he was reported in the Times as saying "I guess the new man will want to come in and make some noises, if I don't like those noises, I will say adios.", so which is it, stay or go? I would expect the new owners would want Bernie to stay and help with the new Concorde agreement that needs to be in place by 2020, but again that would depend on the Liberty Group and if or when they want to take the business to the NASDAQ stock exchange and float it. There is a board meeting on the 13 September where it is expected that Chase Carey will be given a leading roll by the new owners the Liberty Group, he is likely to become chairman of the new company.

This by no means is a done deal and could be scuppered by the European Commission, who may step in because of a potential conflict of interest with the FIA. The FIA has shares in Delta Topco the company that owns the rights to F1 and it stands to make just under $100 million from the sale. The FIA was given the shares 3 years ago and could only sell them once CVC sold its controlling interest in Delta Topco. Clause 8 of the Umbrella Agreement states that the FIA’s consent is required in order to sell F1’s parent company as “any such change of control shall be subject to the prior written approval of FIA Switzerland”. An interesting story about the FIA shares and the legality of it holding can be read here. [Personally I believe the sale will go ahead without a hitch as there is far to much at stake for people to try and block it]
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Imola/Monza legal action
With Monza announcing they have a deal with F1 for 3 more years, the Imola circuit has decided to take Automobile club d’Italia to court. They claim that the club refussed to help them with their bid to host the race and also that the club said it would only grant financial help to Monza. The appeal court in Rome is going to judge if the steps the Automobile Club did until now, in telling the Autodromo of Monza that is the only title to receive the government money, is legal. Imola put an application to the court saying it’s not legal. “Last year the [Italian Prime Minister] Matteo Renzi was [at Monza] and then we had an amendment in the law saying that the Automobile Club of Italy could use the tax that we pay, to use that money to pay the Bernie [Ecclestone] fee through the Automobile Club of Italy, and Imola says, no, if the Automobile Club is giving the money to Monza, it’s unfair, because we are the same level, we are an automobile club as well, and we want the same money that they’re giving to Monza”. The case will be heard on October 26.
 
Yes, the BBC are reporting Bernie's "3 more years" claim: Bernie Ecclestone: Formula 1 boss says 'to stay for three more years' after takeover

I don't mean to be horrible, but that might mean investing in a ouija board.

That said, I think a new owner would be crazy not to have Bernie on-side for renegotiating the Concorde agreement, or at least brain-dumping some of the off-piste clauses, understandings, nods and winks, and agreements while he still can.
 
Yes, the BBC are reporting Bernie's "3 more years" claim: Bernie Ecclestone: Formula 1 boss says 'to stay for three more years' after takeover

I don't mean to be horrible, but that might mean investing in a ouija board.

That said, I think a new owner would be crazy not to have Bernie on-side for renegotiating the Concorde agreement, or at least brain-dumping some of the off-piste clauses, understandings, nods and winks, and agreements while he still can.
Bernie says he will stay on, but it remains to be seen how long that will last. Much of the important information about the deals are in his head, who he pays cash too and stuff like that. I'm sure the Liberty Group will want to formalize many of the handshake deals and plastic-bags of money that seem to go on. The way Bernie conducts business will become a slumbering block at some point and he will walk away, its just a matter of how long he can work with people who may have a different agenda.

The new owners have also said that they will offer the teams a chance to invest in F1 and own part of the franchise, a number of the teams have already expressed an interest according to the new chairman Chase Carey, who said "The teams have done very well; payments to the teams have increased significantly. We think there's real growth in the business and we think everyone should benefit from that growth. We're all partners in the business - simply, Formula One and the teams should basically grow the business going forward".

In other news;
As was reported during last weekends GP Sergio Perez will be staying with Force India, but reports in Mexico are claiming that he only agreed to stay after a letter of understanding was signed between Force India and Carlos Slim. It appears that the team will change hands in the very near future and that Carlos Slim will in fact be the new owner of Force India. When asked if this was the case, Force India didn't refute the story. they responded by saying "it is pure speculation at this time".

As has been mentioned before on this thread the current owners Vijay Mallya and Subrata Roy are both having legal problems, with Roy still in jail in India and Mallya wanted in India on a number of charges ranging from money-laundering to defrauding banks of billions of Dollars. The situation is complicated, as while Mallya claims to still own Force India, Diageo who took control of United Breweries Limited (a Mallya company sold to them) have the F1 team listed as a collateral asset valued in the region of £81 Million on their accounts.

Other news reports appear to contradict the story of Carlos Slim buying Force India, claiming that Perez will in fact move to Ferrari in 2018 and that the deal has already been done. It is no secret that Perez wants to drive for Ferrari and some reports are saying that his remarks during the Monza weekend point to that. When asked about his future with Force India he replied “It looks like what will happen is what I always wanted”.

Edit to say: James Allen's blog is reporting that he has spoken to Force India and they say the team is not for sale and they haven't even spoken to Carlos Slim about buying the team. So maybe the Mexican press are wrong, I guess we will have to wait and see
 
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