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He's our only world class player though
England vs Italy (Group D) Saturday 14th June 2014
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Joe Reilly
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When was that exactly?
Before or after he scored 7 goals in qualification/or before or after he scored 19 goals and 15 assists in a struggling side last season/or before or after he made England's goal, and who after creating space for himself (needing to point to Baines where to put the ball incidentally) came closest to scoring England's second?
Joe Reilly
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He's our only world class player though
All the more reason to play him as defensive cover for an entirely inadequate left-back.
Mungy
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Before the 7 goals in qualification.
He's done well in a poor (by man u standards) man u side, him being a good player in a team that although won the prem the other season most people acknowledge was not a particularly strong side. he doesn't play as well as he could do when he pulls on the england shirt, it could be cos he tries to live up to his hype, or he is not playing in his favoured position or because his hair weave plays up when he runs, thus distracting him. wazza of a few years ago would have buried that chance he had.
Mungy
i haz boobz
baines didn't impress me yesterday. wazza shouldn't be put on defensive duties, really.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
That is a matter of opinion. I like him.
strung out
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And yet our under 17s are the current European champions.
We've got good kids, the question is how well the transition from youth to senior level is managed.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
If you think Rooney's had a better than average season for England or United you can't have been watching him, regardless of the stats.
Lord Camomile
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I'm pretty sure when watching it live I saw a massive spray of sand from that kick. I think you can see it on that gif (spreading out from the corner onto the pitch) but it's difficult to tell as the whole thing is a bit grainyCheers
Has he made an excuse yet? Something about the poor state of the pitch?
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sleaterkinney
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Rooney has been shite since he got that hair transplanted from his arse to his bald patch.
el-ahrairah
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THIS IS OUR YEAR!
Joe Reilly
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To begin with there no such thing 'as a season for England'. As for Utd I have seen every game and the bald truth is, that bad as it was it would have been a hell of a lot worse without him. I'm particularly amused by the 'regardless of the stats' argument. Because previously the argument was that though he was playing OK he didn't score enough. Now that he's goal-scoring improved it's we're told it's in spite of his playing atrociously. The whole thing is entirely artificial and media-driven. Remember during last summer we were informed that the Rooney sale was a foregone conclusion? That the Utd fans wanted him out and so on. Then he comes on as a sub against Swansea and the fans let everyone know how they really felt.
Today he's on the back pages again. 'Should Rooney start against Uruguay?'
Radio Five live went to interview workers at a factory in Luton. And again were audibly dejected when they couldn't find a single one that thought he should be dropped. On the contrary, the real issue they all felt, was that he was being played out of position. I fully accept, as does Rooney btw, why players need to play in positions other than their natural ones in order to benefit the team as a whole. But playing Rooney at left-back, or as good as, didn't strengthen but weakened England defensively and offensively. This was evident from very early on but wasn't changed until half-time. Ironically within minutes of Rooney moving to the right Italy scored down the left. Afterwards it was alleged that Rooney was 'a peripheral figure' the criticism now being that he only got in the box twice in the whole match. The English media aren't on England's side. They simply want a story. And Rooney is the story.
juice_terry
Here is a man who would not take it anymore.
Rooney's cross for Sturridge to score was spot on
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Would have been quicker to just answer "I'm a Manchester United fan and I love Wayne Rooney".
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Incidentally, the idea that there's a media vendetta against Rooney is ridiculous. Virtually every pundit and every article written on the subject is calling for him to displace Sterling playing in the centre behind Sturridge.
And while we're at it, I didn't say he had a bad season, I said he had an average one. Nor did I say he played badly last night, just that he doesn't merit playing centrally ahead of Sterling or Sturridge. Finally, no one asked him to play left-back, just to help Baines when necessary (indeed when Baines is screaming at him to do so).
Lord Camomile
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I suppose the question is which gets you the biggest net gain - Rooney in his favoured position and Sterling out wide, or vice versa. Instinctively I feel like Sterling would be more useful out wide than Rooney, and the gap between them there is greater than the gap between them in the middle.
Saying that, couldn't they just keep swapping throughout the match - wasn't that one of the great strength's of Man Utd's line up a few years back, where you had Rooney, Ronaldo, Giggs and Tevez all swapping positions with every attack and causing merry havoc with defences as a result?
Saying that, couldn't they just keep swapping throughout the match - wasn't that one of the great strength's of Man Utd's line up a few years back, where you had Rooney, Ronaldo, Giggs and Tevez all swapping positions with every attack and causing merry havoc with defences as a result?
Lord Camomile
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But Rooney - and this is a point many seem to be forgetting - is world class.
Allegedly
Allegedly
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I thought Sterling looked his least effective when they stuck him our wide right to play in the sand pit.
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Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
I'd have dropped him in 2006 when he clearly wasn't fit, and 2010 when his position at 10 wasn't significantly effecting games in a positive manner. He only looked, potentially, world class when he was at Euro 2004. He's not that player any more.
At that time Scholes on the wing for Lampard in the centre was madness because Scholes still had world class. But restructuring the side to suit Rooneys need to play mercurially somewhere, when we know he's not on form strikes me as equally barking when we have a decent team that doesn't include him.
At that time Scholes on the wing for Lampard in the centre was madness because Scholes still had world class. But restructuring the side to suit Rooneys need to play mercurially somewhere, when we know he's not on form strikes me as equally barking when we have a decent team that doesn't include him.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
That was after cramp though tbf.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Was that due to the sand pit though? Hopefully he wouldn't have the same problem on other pitches (although I did notice that, despite the sand pit, we still seemed to attack predominantly down the right - poor Baines was often in loads of space but no-one wanted to make use of him
).
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Tbf, I think it's working alright as it is, and it'll probably work alright if Rooney and Sterling swap. I think we'd be a little bit more dynamic as a team without him, but it's fine margins either way.
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