England vs Italy (Group D) Saturday 14th June 2014
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Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
How many in the last 9 years? Oh, one.
Corax
Luke 5:16
I'd actually be more confident of him scoring if he didn't start, and came off the bench instead. He'd make an excellent impact sub in the middle atm.If Rooney starts, I am putting money on him to score
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
It's like arguing Michael Owen should play cos he was great at France '98. At least the argument based on his record on the qualifiers was on reasonably solid ground.
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Starry Wisdom
what's nine years between friends?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
4 in 2004 Euros - he has a patchy record in the World Cup Finals
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Just noted that aside from his two against Brazil in friendlies, the highest ranked team he's scored against are the Swiss. Belarus, Andorra, San Marino, Kazakhstan, Slovakia, Montenegro account for 14 of his last 23 goals.
Ecuador, Bulgaria, Poland and a late and dodgy Bilic Croatia make up the rest.
That's the last six years, ish.
Ecuador, Bulgaria, Poland and a late and dodgy Bilic Croatia make up the rest.
That's the last six years, ish.
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Starry Wisdom
for patchy read pisspoor
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Yeah, except we didn't have a tough group. You only play the team you get, but there's a reason we played Brazil twice. We'd not had a decent challenge in ages
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Tbf that would go for the rest of the team too... (except there's a bundle of players who've kicked on massively in the last 6 months)Yeah, except we didn't have a tough group. You only play the team you get, but there's a reason we played Brazil twice. We'd not had a decent challenge in ages
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
If it goes in off Rooney's (or any England player's) arse we'll still be celebrating, Van Persie can have his kodak moment
I thought Rooney had a decent game against Italy tbh, he set up the goal with a great cross that not every player could have done (which is one of the sillier claims I've seen on this thread and in the media), and was a whisker away from scoring himself after a sharp move. I think all the players will be better next game after getting this one out of the way.
RE: Moving Rooney....Sterling will be just as effective on the left, so we'll lose nothing and almost certainly improve the team shape.
Joe Reilly
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...and his two assists.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Incidentally, the Spanish press were quite impressed with England the other night and none of them mentioned Rooney being out of position. They certainly didn't think that shunting him out on the Left was some kind of abuse/waste.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I think that's what will happen against Uruguay anyway, I don't think it'll do any harm, but I won't expect Rooney to magically come to life.If it goes in off Rooney's (or any England player's) arse we'll still be celebrating, Van Persie can have his kodak moment
I thought Rooney had a decent game against Italy tbh, he set up the goal with a great cross that not every player could have done (which is one of the sillier claims I've seen on this thread and in the media), and was a whisker away from scoring himself after a sharp move. I think all the players will be better next game after getting this one out of the way.
RE: Moving Rooney....Sterling will be just as effective on the left, so we'll lose nothing and almost certainly improve the team shape.
As to the cross, don't be daft, Sturridge is in acres of space, I'd expect a good forward to pick him out. The revelation of that move is Sterling's pass which is a hell of a spot, weighted perfectly and stuck through a very narrow gap.
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I agree.If it goes in off Rooney's (or any England player's) arse we'll still be celebrating, Van Persie can have his kodak moment
I thought Rooney had a decent game against Italy tbh, he set up the goal with a great cross that not every player could have done (which is one of the sillier claims I've seen on this thread and in the media), and was a whisker away from scoring himself after a sharp move. I think all the players will be better next game after getting this one out of the way.
RE: Moving Rooney....Sterling will be just as effective on the left, so we'll lose nothing and almost certainly improve the team shape.
I'm not as down on Rooney as everyone else, I think he's a talented player who can both do a job for the team as well as creating a moment of magic. He's not a superstar, but I think people's negative reactions to him are more down to the media overplaying his talent, while playing down his willingness to do a job for the team. I actually think he's a much better team player than most so called superstars, He'll genuinely play almost anywhere that he's asked, but it so happens that he's not as effective in some of those positions. That's not his fault, or even a reason to dislike him. Ronaldo and Messi are freaks. Van Persie's a different type of player, but you don't really see him playing effectively all over the pitch, do you?
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Well, that was my original point. To repeat, not only has Rooney already scored more competitive goals for England already - the value/ratio in scoring away from home is significant as well.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
How do you think he's playing right now, Joe? Not over his entire England career, but right now.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
2 and a bit weeks most of emExcept, y'know, for the four week away trips
ska invita
back on the other side
crouch scored lots of soft goals in insignificant gamesThough that does put Peter Crouch above Shearer and Charlton
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
ska invita
back on the other side
hes also a national mocking figure
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Starry Wisdom
he'll go over but he'll be left behind in yakutsk or chita or somesuch
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