England v South Africa Test Series

[jonnyd1978]

Interesting discussion on TMS in the lunch break re the ball tampering. Consensus seemed to be it's such a batsman friendly game thesedays that bowlers need to try to gain every advantage they can! As to why SA didn't protest officially, a nice little turn of phrase used was 'People in glass houses can shout but not throw stones!'
Can we save the game? Colly is in so anything's possible.

 

[Santino]

Interesting discussion on TMS in the lunch break re the ball tampering. Consensus seemed to be it's such a batsman friendly game thesedays that bowlers need to try to gain every advantage they can! As to why SA didn't protest officially, a nice little turn of phrase used was 'People in glass houses can shout but not throw stones!'

I thought SA handled it pretty poorly, especially going on about it to the media after the referee has ruled on the matter.

 

[Discordia]

When have we ball tampered?

"It's ok to cheat because bowlers need the help" is a quite pathetic excuse.

 

[bi0boy]

Still on for the win

Just 275 needed. A century each for Colly and Bell, and a quick knockabout from Swann and Prior should do it.

 

[jonnyd1978]

When have we ball tampered?

"It's ok to cheat because bowlers need the help" is a quite pathetic excuse.

I think the suggestion is that all bowlers will have a scratch or a stud into the ball if they can get away with it.

 

[Discordia]

I think the suggestion is that all bowlers will have a scratch or a stud into the ball if they can get away with it.

I suppose that's why this comes up every Test. Oh wait, it doesn't.

"But everyone cheats!", especially when they don't, is an even more pathetic excuse.

 

[jonnyd1978]

So why haven't SA made an official complaint then?

 

[Discordia]

Don't know, they should have. Not really relevant to the issue of whether a) Broad/Anderson cheated, and b) whether they should be admonished, not defended for this.

 

[jonnyd1978]

Perhaps becasue they have a go at the ball themselves? How do you think bowlers get a ball to reverse?

 

[Discordia]

Perhaps becasue they have a go at the ball themselves? How do you think bowlers get a ball to reverse?

By shining one side.....do you watch cricket? Shining it isn't illegal BTW. Scuffing it up is.

 

[jonnyd1978]

No. Shining one side helps the ball to swing. Many sides have a 'specialist' shiner of the ball. Reverse swing requires something more.

 

[Dirty Martini]

What about shining with Murray-minted-saliva?

 

[paulhackett]

Don't know, they should have. Not really relevant to the issue of whether a) Broad/Anderson cheated, and b) whether they should be admonished, not defended for this.

Didn't it strike you as a strange time to bring it up? SA have their best day in the series, make 300 odd for 2, England have their least effective day in the field and now SA choose to mention it?

Smacks of (more) gamesmanship to me.. how was Kallis reversing it earlier in this innings?

 

[Murdoch]

Jelly beans work a bit better.

 

[mrkikiet]

good old collingwood. bell might be showing something jsut something as well....

 

[strung out]

to be fair, bell's been showing something for the last 4 tests he's played in

 

[strung out]

we're running out of time to win this now. i think bell and colly should get out and let swanny and prior have a go

 

[fen_boy]

we're running out of time to win this now. i think bell and colly should get out and let swanny and prior have a go

 

[mrkikiet]

to be fair, bell's been showing something for the last 4 tests he's played in

time for another caveat on the Bell: wait until he has played a match influencing innings supported by only the lower order...

 

[bi0boy]

any free live streams?

 

[gabi]

crictime.com is my standby. not great quality but always works.

 

[Mr Retro]

to be fair, bell's been showing something for the last 4 tests he's played in

He's had a fantastic test.

 

[strung out]

half century for him now

 

[TrippyLondoner]

He's had a fantastic test.

He has, fair play to him. Lets hope there's more to come.

 

[g force]

Come on Bell!! I'm keeping the faith Doing better than KP that's for certain!

 

[fen_boy]

Funny comment on Cricinfo

"This is fantastic! Like a Ginger Stalingrad!" exclaims Paul. "Reds Army!"

 

[HobgoblinMan]

If there was a god, his name would be Paul Collingwood.

 

[strung out]

colly gone now

 

[TrippyLondoner]

damnit

 

[HobgoblinMan]

Bollocks.