England Cricket 2022
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littlebabyjesus
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He'd have been an excellent fit for 'bazball', of course. Perhaps that's what had tempted him to possibly come back. I would have fancied him to make a few runs in Pakistan, but his bowling might have gone around the park.
His career has taken a strange path. From a specialist batter at the start to making it in internationals on the back of his newly developed bowling, and now in the later stages of his career back to being primarily a batter who chips in with the ball. A batter who chips in with the ball is what he's always wanted to be. England wanted him to be something slightly different.
His career has taken a strange path. From a specialist batter at the start to making it in internationals on the back of his newly developed bowling, and now in the later stages of his career back to being primarily a batter who chips in with the ball. A batter who chips in with the ball is what he's always wanted to be. England wanted him to be something slightly different.
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Yeah, you hear a lot about how he was messed around by the management but I think that can variously mean 'was asked to bat higher' and 'wasn't asked to bat higher', often at the same time. I think there are times where there has been some truth in it and other times when he's probably been given opportunities up the order which his record has never quite warranted to be honest. Looking back with hindsight that bowling all-rounder position batting at 7 was probably the best fit for him and the team but even there he was a slightly odd fit.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He didn't do well at 8, and he's on record saying that he struggled to think of himself as a batter when coming in at 8. Opening the batting in UAE was always a long-shot at working, and it didn't work. Other than that, he actually did ok when he batted higher than 7.
His career record is kind of odd all through. An expensive wicket-taker with the ball in tests, but fewer wickets in ODI and T20, in which he plays a holding role. With the bat, his averages are all a bit low, but he strikes at 100 in ODIs and has been an effective number 6/7, while his T20 batting has taken off recently since being trusted at number 3 in the IPL.
There's no doubt that he is/was a player who needed a bit of love, who needed to feel valued. And that England didn't handle that very well. There is perhaps some fault on both sides in that relationship, but a good manager knows how to manage different characters. Moeen is a strange one in that regard as he is clearly a bit fragile, but the way to handle that fragility is to give him more responsibility, not less.
His career record is kind of odd all through. An expensive wicket-taker with the ball in tests, but fewer wickets in ODI and T20, in which he plays a holding role. With the bat, his averages are all a bit low, but he strikes at 100 in ODIs and has been an effective number 6/7, while his T20 batting has taken off recently since being trusted at number 3 in the IPL.
There's no doubt that he is/was a player who needed a bit of love, who needed to feel valued. And that England didn't handle that very well. There is perhaps some fault on both sides in that relationship, but a good manager knows how to manage different characters. Moeen is a strange one in that regard as he is clearly a bit fragile, but the way to handle that fragility is to give him more responsibility, not less.
Baz knew him well from the IPL and there was mutual respect so I don't think you can blame his management there. I don't think you could have asked for a better fit between coach and player.
He's probably just decided like many to reap the benefits of T20 and sit on a beach with his family for the rest of his life.
He's probably just decided like many to reap the benefits of T20 and sit on a beach with his family for the rest of his life.
planetgeli
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Pasty’s big blitz: the inside story of Warwickshire’s great escape
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Interview about Warwickshire's last day efforts to avoid relegation with the two main bowlers involved. For someone with a poncy name Oliver Hannon-Dalby comes across well, quite funny.
planetgeli
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Slogball going well.
England 118/0 off 10.
Buttler 63 0ff 29. Hales 53 off 31.
Ashes should be no problem.
England 118/0 off 10.
Buttler 63 0ff 29. Hales 53 off 31.
Ashes should be no problem.
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He's 35 IIRC. People (who aren't James Anderson) generally give up test cricket at that sort of age.
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Yea, rubbish that Ben Stokes
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbf Stokes bowled two very handy overs as well today. Didn't get going with the bat, but neither did Hales, Warner, Finch or Maxwell.
Moeen Ali is worth his place as a specialist bat right now. Can't see him bowling much in the WC. Don't think spinners are going to be a big feature. Who do you drop for Livingstone? That's the question.
Strikes me that t20 is a format in which form counts massively. You pick players who are hot, not players with long-term reputations.
Moeen Ali is worth his place as a specialist bat right now. Can't see him bowling much in the WC. Don't think spinners are going to be a big feature. Who do you drop for Livingstone? That's the question.
Strikes me that t20 is a format in which form counts massively. You pick players who are hot, not players with long-term reputations.
Stokes. Sacrilege I know.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
shouldn't underestimate being brilliant in the field either. That's most valuable in the shortest format - you need some great fielders and you can't afford any bad ones. Was the difference between the teams today.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And I have to admit, Sam Curran has been doing very well. t20 is his format, it seems.
Well yes, but Livingstone is gonna blast 20-30 runs a game at least. And can bowl. Stokes must also be a pretty intimidating presence in the dressing room for the extremely mild mannered white ball captain which can't be helpful.
I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he's been dropped though
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
To back up what I just said about Moeen, I knew he was in good form but his stats for this year are massive.
20 t20is this year, 458 runs, ave 32, s/r 164.
Undroppable form.
20 t20is this year, 458 runs, ave 32, s/r 164.
Undroppable form.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbf I don't fancy Livingstone bowling too much in Aus. But yes, right now he looks a better batting option than Stokes.Well yes, but Livingstone is gonna blast 20-30 runs a game at least. And can bowl. Stokes must also be a pretty intimidating presence in the dressing room for the extremely mild mannered white ball captain which can't be helpful.
I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he's been dropped though
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
England have the wrong captain tbh. Moeen Ali should be t20 captain. Buttler can captain the 50-over stuff, where Moeen isn't necessarily an automatic pick.Well yes, but Livingstone is gonna blast 20-30 runs a game at least. And can bowl. Stokes must also be a pretty intimidating presence in the dressing room for the extremely mild mannered white ball captain which can't be helpful.
I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he's been dropped though
Moeen's quiet, but he's not mild-mannered - criticising Alastair Cook to his face live on air.
He is a fairly regular pick in the Big Bash. Knows the conditions.
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Test squad has just been announced and blimey.
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Jennings
Crawley/Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook/Livingstone/Jacks
Stokes
Foakes
Robinson/Overton
Wood
Leach
Anderson
Crawley/Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook/Livingstone/Jacks
Stokes
Foakes
Robinson/Overton
Wood
Leach
Anderson
It actually looks a decent side. Though Leach has no right to be anywhere near the international scene. He's a better batsman than he is a bowler.
What happened to Potts though?
Baz will have a tough choice between Brook and Livingstone though. Both are in his style.
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He has a “no dickhead” policy. Livingstone may fail that.
littlebabyjesus
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Poor old Alex Lees. We knew he was going to be dropped when the contracts were announced.
We'll see if Wood is still fit by then.
Brook has to play, I would think. Livingstone is a punt. Both Duckett and Jennings of course failed first time out in tests. At least they've been in form.
But just the one frontline spinner. That's a bit of a surprise.
We'll see if Wood is still fit by then.
Brook has to play, I would think. Livingstone is a punt. Both Duckett and Jennings of course failed first time out in tests. At least they've been in form.
But just the one frontline spinner. That's a bit of a surprise.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Leach has 95 test wickets @32 in 29 matches. That's steady enough. You may not rate him, but he's not rubbish.
I'm not sure where you've got that from, but Baz has certainly displayed some dickheadish behaviour in his career. But yes, Brook looks to be the future. I assume Livingstone is backup and I don't actually recall any dickheadish things from him?
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...and Livingstone is notorious for being a swaggering fuckwit.
