DUP and Tory f*ck up thread

[flypanam]

fucks sake. | BPAS
(court just ruled that women from NI can't access free NHS abortions in UK , their decision based on 'respect' for the views of the NI assembly.)

To be expected, unfortunately. The DUP hold the all the aces.

 

[moochedit]

what happens if she wins that; business as usual?

Yep fraid so

Although it wouldn't take many by elections to change that as they are very tight even with the dup. (Fingers crossed)

 

[Wilf]

fucks sake. | BPAS
(court just ruled that women from NI can't access free NHS abortions in UK , their decision based on 'respect' for the views of the NI assembly.)

This is the first awkward practical question for may following the agreement/near agreement with the dup. The issue doesn't arise directly from the tory-dup thing, but she's not going to put it at risk by allowing NI women to travel for abortions.

 

[Cid]

fucks sake. | BPAS
(court just ruled that women from NI can't access free NHS abortions in UK , their decision based on 'respect' for the views of the NI assembly.)

No, their decision was "restrained by the decision of the Secretary of State for Health, Jeremy Hunt, who argued the ban was out of “respect” for the democratic process in Northern Ireland".

 

[Mordi]

No, their decision "restrained by the decision of the Secretary of State for Health, Jeremy Hunt, who argued the ban was out of “respect” for the democratic process in Northern Ireland".

This is absolutely disgusting. Normally I can step back from stuff (partly because politics in the 6C is usually deeply silly) but this totally infuriates me.

I'd write to my MP but...

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

 

[Cid]

Shinners are accusing TM of breach of the good friday agreement.

 

[frogwoman]

She's going to have to resign. None of them are fit for public office.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

None of them are fit for public office

sadly that doesn't usually stop the buggers being there

 

[Streathamite]

The bright side: the more May has to concede to that bunch of rancid bigots, the more it may well come to hurt her elsewhere.

 

[J Ed]

The bright side: the more May has to concede to that bunch of rancid bigots, the more it may well come to hurt her elsewhere.

I'm still not convinced she is going to be able bring them on board.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm still not convinced she is going to be able bring them on board.

It's the marches, got to be. She's saying fuck no and they aren't budging

#crystalball

 

[Supine]

It's the marches, got to be. She's saying fuck no and they aren't budging

#crystalball

The marches, or getting Farage involved in Brexit. There are no good reasons for a holdup.

 

[J Ed]

The marches, or getting Farage involved in Brexit. There are no good reasons for a holdup.

Unless the DUP don't really want to prop up what is going to be a hated and short lived government. The DUP might be worried that the Tories will toxify their brand....

 

[ruffneck23]

Unless the DUP don't really want to prop up what is going to be a hated and short lived government. The DUP might be worried that the Tories will toxify their brand....

This could well be the case so the DUP think they may as well ask for the kitchen sink et al

 

[Rosemary Jest]

This could well be the case so the DUP think they may as well ask for the kitchen sink et al

Seems plausible and who can blame them?

Still, seeing how long it took May to even begin to think about starting Brexit talks, taking 2 weeks to arrange something with the duppers seems small fry. She's not the best at planning or decision making, is she?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in these talks, though I suspect it would be one long head in hands moment.

 

[Supine]

"Theresa, if you'd just stop crying for a minute we can make some progress"

 

[Dom Traynor]

Unless the DUP don't really want to prop up what is going to be a hated and short lived government. The DUP might be worried that the Tories will toxify their brand....

Imagine being so evil you could toxify the DUP brand.

 

[DaveCinzano]

To be expected, unfortunately. The DUP hold the all the aces.

What, all five of them?

 

[eoin_k]

Imagine being so evil you could toxify the DUP brand.

This seem more credible than them trying to wring concessions out of the Tories at the moment, although it goes both ways. The Tories have already pushed their social liberal/economic liberal constituency to the limits and can't afford to alienate them entirely by getting into bed with the DUP,. The DUP need to play the socially conservative, clientist, Keynesians to their base in 'Norn Iron'.

 

[Rosemary Jest]

What, all five of them?

Plus a couple of jokers too.

 

[8115]

I appreciate that some other things have been taking up a lot of space on the news recently and today but am I the only one to find the continuing silence about the Tory/ DUP deal strange and if I'm honest, more than a little heartening. The queen's speech is due on Wednesday.

 

[8den]

Little Pengelly is a DUP MP & barrister. If you drive through west Belfast right now you'll see UVF & UDA flags hanging side by side with union jacks. They even have bunting.

It's the day after May says we must fight all kinds of extremism. Imagine if this was a Muslim MP and they were ISIS flags flying in Bradford.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I appreciate that some other things have been taking up a lot of space on the news recently and today but am I the only one to find the continuing silence about the Tory/ DUP deal strange and if I'm honest, more than a little heartening. The queen's speech is due on Wednesday.

Grayling today saying that the talks are going well. Ten days in...

Also hinting strongly that there will be no agreement pre-Queen's speech

We have got some days until we have a vote on the Queen's Speech. It is not on Queen's Speech day. The vote happens many days later as we have an extended debate first and I am sure we will have a sensible arrangement between the parties when that time comes.

Talks are going so well that they'd like to keep them going for as long as possible.

 

[8den]

Grayling today saying that the talks are going well. Ten days in...

Also hinting strongly that there will be no agreement pre-Queen's speech



Talks are going so well that they'd like to keep them going for as long as possible.

I'd get comfortable, there's nothing the DUP like more* than a nice long protracted negotiation




* except marching, Lambeg drums, hating taigs, building dangerously tall bonfires, marching, bunting, marching, the Queen, arguing against evolution, marching, flegs!, hating the gays, marching & of course marching.

 

[Florkleshnort]

I appreciate that some other things have been taking up a lot of space on the news recently and today but am I the only one to find the continuing silence about the Tory/ DUP deal strange and if I'm honest, more than a little heartening. The queen's speech is due on Wednesday.

So it's not just me then. I've been looking through the news thinking I must have missed the announcement...

 

[moochedit]

I appreciate that some other things have been taking up a lot of space on the news recently and today but am I the only one to find the continuing silence about the Tory/ DUP deal strange and if I'm honest, more than a little heartening. The queen's speech is due on Wednesday.

I can't remember now exactly how long the tory and lib dem deal took in 2015 or how much information we got about it while it was going on but surely it was quicker than this?

 

[Cid]

In the greater scheme of hung parliaments this is still early days. 5 days for the condems though apparently.

 

[Cid]

They've been sort of mumbling that everything's fine, honest, on and off since the election haven't they?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I can't remember now exactly how long the tory and lib dem deal took in 2015 or how much information we got about it while it was going on but surely it was quicker than this?

Five days from the election to the publication of the full agreement. So this is already a week longer.