DUP and Tory f*ck up thread

[Casually Red]

Question: Do DUP leaders generally attend marches as a matter of course? Enormous potential for mischief in marching season if so.

Of course they do ..they have to pretty much. They even turn up and light some of these bonfires / hate pyres. Here's DUP minister Paul Givan doing exactly that just last year .

This is actually an offence . Reminds me of the fucking ku klux klan that pic .

Eta

A few more of them

Criticism after DUP minister lights Eleventh Night bonfire

Best one was Kinahan..a UU minister claiming the Irish flag was on top of the bonfire he attended as a tribute to inclusivity or some such shit . They're fucking unreal.

 

[Ming]

I think i might have mentioned this before but my mum trod on Ian Paisley's foot by accident and refused to apologise when she saw who it was (she was an Irish Catholic).

 

[Casually Red]

Actually now I've just realised...just had a " ddoh " moment.

That's why they don't believe in global warming and climate change. It's because of their massive fucking bonfires !!

Can't believe I never picked up on that before .

 

[J Ed]

its always been weird how such a heavily policed and often contentious- to the point of shots and burning cars- season just passes by as normal and gets a litle mention as third item on the beeb. If it was a city in the rest of the union there would be headlines in the boldest of fonts

Yes, another complete failing of the media in this country.

Actually it never used to be this bad, Northern Ireland was covered pretty extensively in the early 2000s.

 

[not-bono-ever]

What is this about the DUP demanding Farge to be enobled and given a role in the administration ?

this
is
fucking
nuts

 

[not-bono-ever]

 

[bromley]

There's no polish flags on it so it's either old or they're just not trying hard enough to offend everyone .

Here we have the poles lumped in with the Palestinians

And let's not forget the Chinese either. A great bunch of lads .

Is that an upside down Polish flag, is so, WTF? If not what flag is it?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Is that an upside down Polish flag, is so, WTF? If not what flag is it?

Flag of Monaco?

Despicable Catholic Grimaldi bastards.

 

[Cid]

Is that an upside down Polish flag, is so, WTF? If not what flag is it?

Indonesia. But probably upside down.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Sorry, I really am pretty ignorant about this stuff. Just to be clear, for marching season, they build these big bonfires and place the flags of places and people they don't like on them to be burned?

And DUP types all join in with this stuff enthusiastically, and will be doing so in just a few weeks' time with the whole of the UK media present to witness it?

 

[bromley]

Why is there a hatred of either?! I can't see a Vatican City flag!

 

[Ax^]

Sorry, I really am pretty ignorant about this stuff. Just to be clear, for marching season, they build these big bonfires and place the flags of places and people they don't like on them to be burned?

And DUP types all join in with this stuff enthusiastically, and will be doing so in just a few weeks' time with the whole of the UK media present to witness it?

Yup

 

[Cid]

Why is there a hatred of either?! I can't see a Vatican City flag!

Poland pretty much universally Catholic, significant number of Poles in NI. I assume.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yup

Jolly good. Sorry I know this hateful shit is fucking horrible if you're on the receiving end of it, but the prospect of Tory squirming does make me inwardly smile.

Hopefully the DUP will also come to regret having this wider focus placed on them.

 

[marty21]

Trying to get my head around the EVEL legislation passed by the Tories to stop a SNP/Labour coalition in 2015. So the DUP can't vote on English laws ,nor can Scottish and Welsh Tories or the SNP , PC , Scottish and Welsh Lib dem and Labour.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Ireland’s prime minister warns Theresa May over deal with DUP

 

[Superdupastupor]

Why is there a hatred of either?! I can't see a Vatican City flag!

No just threats either, Polish families fire bombed out of their homes in loyalist areas.

 

[The Flying Pig]

Sorry, I really am pretty ignorant about this stuff. Just to be clear, for marching season, they build these big bonfires and place the flags of places and people they don't like on them to be burned?

And DUP types all join in with this stuff enthusiastically, and will be doing so in just a few weeks' time with the whole of the UK media present to witness it?

It is a very sad reflection that few in England have any idea of Loyalism in the six counties and the bigotry, racism, hatred of the Irish and Irish language, Catholics, Muslims(religion of the Devil - no less) & have no idea why those bonfires are lit on the eve of the 12th. Many Eastern europeans have been burnt out of their homes in East & North Belfast. The hatred is not reserved for only the above, they also are currently going through an internal feud resulting in the killings of two of "their own" .

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It is a very sad reflection that few in England have any idea of Loyalism in the six counties and the bigotry, racism, hatred of the Irish and Irish language, Catholics, Muslims(religion of the Devil - no less) & have no idea why those bonfires are lit on the eve of the 12th. Many Eastern europeans have been burnt out of their homes in East & North Belfast. The hatred is not reserved for only the above, they also are currently going through an internal feud resulting in the killings of two of "their own" .

Sorry, I'm not proud of my ignorance here, but I didn't even know about the bonfires on the eve of the 12th let alone what they were about. You're right though that more people should know. More people are about to...

 

[eoin_k]

Sorry, I really am pretty ignorant about this stuff. Just to be clear, for marching season, they build these big bonfires and place the flags of places and people they don't like on them to be burned?

And DUP types all join in with this stuff enthusiastically, and will be doing so in just a few weeks' time with the whole of the UK media present to witness it?

This makes them seem no worse than Lewis Bonfire Societies. Ian Paisley, the party's founder, played a major role in stoking up sectarian tension before 'the troubles' started. Taking a mob into the Catholic ghetto to rip down tricolours from the nationalist party's offices and similar theatrics. Throughout the conflict the party maintained and ambiguous relationship to loyalist paramilitaries, who began the cycle of violence: sometimes maintaining a plausibly deniable distance while getting very cosy with them when it suited both their purposes. The sectarian pageantry has some claims to date back to the late 18th century, but has been reinvented periodically since the late 19th century - when the protestant ascendancy began to play 'the orange card'* in response to the threat of home rule.

* Randolph Churchill - This is far from uncharted territory for the Conservative and Unionist Party

 

[littlebabyjesus]

This makes them seem no worse than Lewis Bonfire Societies. Ian Paisley, the party's founder, played a major role in stoking up sectarian tension before 'the troubles' started. Taking a mob into the Catholic ghetto to rip down tricolours from the nationalist parties offices and similar theatrics. Throughout the conflict the party maintained and ambiguous relationship to loyalist paramilitaries, who began the cycle of violence: sometimes maintaining a plausibly deniable distance while getting very cosy with them when it suited both their purposes. The sectarian pageantry has some claims to date back to the late 18th century, but has been reinvented periodically since the late 19th century - when the protestant ascendancy began to play 'the orange card'* in response to the threat of home rule.

* Randolph Churchill - This is far from uncharted territory for the Conservative and Unionist Party

Yes, I didn't intend to make light of it.

 

[eoin_k]

Yes, I didn't intend to make light of it.

Not suggesting that you were, just trying to emphasise that the performative aspects of it need to be read in the wider context. Like a KKK cross burning means so much more when you are aware of the history of lynchings and the ongoing power relations between black and white in America.

 

[Sue]

Sorry, I really am pretty ignorant about this stuff. Just to be clear, for marching season, they build these big bonfires and place the flags of places and people they don't like on them to be burned?

And DUP types all join in with this stuff enthusiastically, and will be doing so in just a few weeks' time with the whole of the UK media present to witness it?

Pretty much.

 

[Kaka Tim]

ermm.... is this bollocks? I thought the DUP were more soft brexit.

The DUP could insist on Nigel Farage having a role in Brexit negotiations

 

[Corax]

Trying to get my head around the EVEL legislation passed by the Tories to stop a SNP/Labour coalition in 2015. So the DUP can't vote on English laws ,nor can Scottish and Welsh Tories or the SNP , PC , Scottish and Welsh Lib dem and Labour.

Shit, did they actually legislate? I thought it had just been agreed on as convention.

 

[maomao]

ermm.... is this bollocks? I thought the DUP were more soft brexit.

The DUP could insist on Nigel Farage having a role in Brexit negotiations

They may well be but they've been prebought by Aaron Banks who is probably pissing himself laughing right now.

 

[Corax]

ermm.... is this bollocks? I thought the DUP were more soft brexit.

The DUP could insist on Nigel Farage having a role in Brexit negotiations

I think it depends what topic you're talking about. From what I've been able to make out they seem to be after a special DUP pick'n'mix Brexit.

 

[ruffneck23]

Listening to mayhems speech right now , its crazy she is so in denial , hunt and gove ffs , again she is throwing everything away again

 

[Bernie Gunther]

They may well be but they've been prebought by Aaron Banks who is probably pissing himself laughing right now.

The impression I'm getting is that the DUP are pretty flexible where large amounts of cash are concerned (while remaining resolutely opposed to science and civilised behaviour)

 

[marty21]

Shit, did they actually legislate? I thought it had just been agreed on as convention.

English votes for English laws: House of Commons bill procedure

There probably is some wriggle room and I'm sure the Tories will be desperate to find some atm.