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Strikes will 'antagonise' many in Arab world, says Chomsky.
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20110321.htm
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20110321.htm
Do you support Gaddafi in the current Libya Crisis
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It's true. And UN resolutions always lead to the US bombing Mid East countries. Security Council Resolution 242, General Assembly Resolution 38/39, and so on.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
invisibleplanet
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And hand Chinese entrepreneurs a coup. Well, I don't actually mean a 'coup' coup. I mean an economic/resource coup.
CyberRose
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Action against Libya really is a catch 22 situation. This isn't like all the other protests, this is civil war with both sides possessing military hardware to cause serious damage. Can those who have the power to prevent attrocities stand by and watch while they happen? But on the other hand what affect does military action (considering recent history of the West's actions against 'Muslim' countries) have in a broader prospective - will that help achieve democracy or will it polarise certain groups (especially if the West is seen as taking sides).
I'm in favour of the military strikes because I tend to lean towards the first point that if you have the power to prevent a bully from picking on people you should act. I think the military action is not particularly designed to completely wipe out Gadaffi's forces but rather to desrupt them enough that they cannot commit attrocities (ie airstrikes against protesters). I don't think there will be the same level of backlash in the Muslim world as there was for the Iraq war (altho I am aware of some anti-West protests in a few places around the world already so it's certainly something that is happening) considering Gadaffi is killing people (fellow Muslims) live on TV, something we didn't have leading up to the Iraq war. I think without the strikes things were just about to get a whole lot worse for those opposing Gadaffi with Benghazi just about to be overrun. If Gadaffi regains control I dread to think what would happen to those who had stood up against him.
That said, I certainly don't think there should be any troop deployments.
I'm in favour of the military strikes because I tend to lean towards the first point that if you have the power to prevent a bully from picking on people you should act. I think the military action is not particularly designed to completely wipe out Gadaffi's forces but rather to desrupt them enough that they cannot commit attrocities (ie airstrikes against protesters). I don't think there will be the same level of backlash in the Muslim world as there was for the Iraq war (altho I am aware of some anti-West protests in a few places around the world already so it's certainly something that is happening) considering Gadaffi is killing people (fellow Muslims) live on TV, something we didn't have leading up to the Iraq war. I think without the strikes things were just about to get a whole lot worse for those opposing Gadaffi with Benghazi just about to be overrun. If Gadaffi regains control I dread to think what would happen to those who had stood up against him.
That said, I certainly don't think there should be any troop deployments.
invisibleplanet
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Not quite sure why people bother couching the killing in religious terms. Isn't that like saying the Falklands war was Christians killing Christians.
Did Gad airstrike protestors?
Deareg
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OH really thats what the UN resoultion says. The Libyan armies advance has been stopped.
but urbanites know so much more
Try taking your nose out of the Sun and watch what's being reported from around the world.
CyberRose
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That's the horrible catch - what would result in less civilian deaths? Maybe these strikes will provoke Gadaffi's forces to commit attrocities they would not otherwise have done? Maybe those cruise missiles have stopped Gadaffi's forces from committing the worse attrocities by preventing them from entering Benghazi?
Lol
CyberRose
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The man who holds all the cards, has all the answers, and is too smug to share them with the rest of us (alternatively, of course, you might just want to create that appearance to hide the fact that you don't have the ability to win an argument with Jodie Marsh)
Mrs Bloggs
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Do you know anything about the world outside your four walls?
JHE
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They won't speak up for the Loon of Libya (let alone fight). Though he's at least nominally Muslim, he's not a Slamist, so the Social Workers don't love him, as they love Hezbollocks, Hamarse, the Muslim Brotherhood and so on.
Islamotantrums.
CyberRose
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If you have anything to say to me then ffs just say it...
Idaho
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I think he just used troops with automatic weapons.
Aint going to mean much to many of you but amongst my regular circle of associates, none of whom could be considered in anyway 'left' (they consider me to be a bit suspect because I loathe the whole 'Help our Heroes' campaign ) there seems to be an almost universal opposition to this attack against Libya. Its not based on any real ideological grounds but more to do with an annoyance that we are being told we are broke as a country but somehow can afford to attack a foreign nation who pose zero threat it this country.
If it drags on then I sense it could back fire on Cameron big time.
If it drags on then I sense it could back fire on Cameron big time.
Johnny Canuck3
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It's only a matter of time before his troops are tearing preemie babies out of incubators.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Windy catholics? Are they as representative as as bleating lefties?
The39thStep
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Odd that both Ivory Coast & Sudan has gone ape shit in the past week, but we can't afford dog shit bags in my park cos we're spending millions bombing Libya. How did they chose Libya over the other two? Paper, scissors, oil?
Johnny Canuck3
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Gbagbo's troops regularly open fire on unarmed civilians in Cote' d'Ivoire. I know there must be a difference, but I can't think what it is.
Aint many Catholics amongst my chums.
But it has surprised me at how many people have been annoyed at this new 'front'. I really get a sense of people feeling a genuine grievance at being asked to accept that we are broke as a nation and yet seeing another war being waged for reasons which really do not add.
Johnny Canuck3
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Over here, a couple of weeks ago, we had a number of psychiatrists on the news opining about Gaddafi's mental health. Is that even an issue? He's been batshit for decades.
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In public.
My mistake, it was a BNP member who set-up the pro-Gaddafi Facebook and not the leadership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...addafi-Facebook-group-snares-politicians.html
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