IME, one of the more prominent issues is the tedium of single-issue vegans who don't really talk about anything but their veganism, vegan principles, veganity, and associated vegan-oriented topics of conversation.
Wiki: The term carnism was coined by social psychologist Melanie Joy in 2001
Is this a genuinely "prominent issue". Really? Surely you jest.
I have no idea what you're on about here. All of my posts so far have been about or related to the topic veganism, so I make it 100%. Of course anybody that is not particularly interested in this subject can choose one of the many other topics on offer.
I had to look it up too. It seems to be a veiled pejorative used by vegans to describe meat eaters.
All very predictable. Meatheads scraping the bottom of the barrel when they have no decent counter arguments.and here he goes! yawn
e2a here THEY go
indeed, generally the same ones here too
#metagame
It's far from a lack of counter arguments. The counter arguments are perfectly straightforward, reasonable, and have been done to death here over the years. It's not like any vegan has ever posted anything so compelling that anyone's thought "hold on ...", and the same vice versa. Thing is, afaia, nobody has ever changed anyone's else's mind on this topic in the 17 years I've been here so it just becomes spiteful usually, with the vegans getting worked-up and abusive. Obviously that can be amusing in itself, but if you're looking for meaningful debate you're unlikely to find it on this bit of the internet.
Well generally speaking it's the vegans that start fulminating and personalising. Your mate here for example has already used "meatheads" and this silly "carnists", as have you, whilst nobody on the other side has yet resorted to name calling. Jeff Robinson is the only vegan on these boards who's worth engaging with.
And now the whole thread can also get to see it without having to look it up. Pays to define new terms.
you such a child aren't you.
Perfectly straightforward and reasonable?
Those mean and horrible vegans eh? lol. Well as I have not read every post in this forum and I haven't had the pleasure of 17 years of urban75 residency, I'm not able to verify your claim that no minds have been changed here, however out in the real world, minds most definitely have been changed. Even though meatheadism is still overwhelmingly dominant, vegheads are gaining traction, and, imo, this might be the real reason behind the anti-vegan backlash and the increasingly desperate and feeble "counter arguments".
Wow, talk about heavily one sided bias. Are you really going to cite "meatheads" and "carnists" as name calling? lol. Things really are getting desperate, I suppose this is the sort of irrelevance that is needed as a distraction from the woeful "lack of proper argument". I'm quite happy with my use of the terms meatheads and carnist and see them as cuddly terms of endearment and accurate descriptions of our misguided meat loving friends, nothing personal or name calling about it. I didn't realise you meatheads were so sensitive.
So you've been stewing over that for over an hour since you posted at #228?
no i was doing something else funnily enough
None of these are counter arguments to veganism.
why you so annoyed by it then? ffs
Frank seemed pretty annoyed and wanting to teach people a lesson, but then the term meant nothing a few posts later
