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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

Sometimes the strangest things cause you to stop and think. I remember when I first started thinking about whether or not it was right to eat meat. It was on Thanksgiving Day a number of years ago. I had been drinking while I waited for the turkey to get done. By the time I was standing at the head of the table with my carving knife, I suddenly had the strangest thoughts. I got to thinking that there might be some beings on another planet somewhere who are as intelligent compared with us as we are compared with turkeys.

Now that's a disturbing thought! I could just see myself in some strange planetary oven, being roasted. It would be one thing to roast white folks brown; they'd be trying to figure out a way to "undone" us black folks. I even thought about myself lying on a platter all filled with stuffing!

Then I had visions of these beings from another planet going to the butcher shop with their meat list. I wonder what they'd call their butcher shops? They'd probably call them "folks shops." I could hear them placing an order: "Give me a half dozen Oriental knees, two Caucasian feet and twelve fresh Black lips." And the folks-shopkeeper comes back smiling and says, "These Black lips are so fresh they're still talking'." After that little fantasy, I couldn't eat my Thanksgiving dinner. But it started me thinking.
High intelligence aliens treating us in the same way that we humanely treat apparently less intelligent animals. Very good metaphor.
 
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Another excellent video. :thumbs: This thread is becoming a great resource library for those that can filter out the noise from the trolls.
There's plenty of good stuff out there and even though the troll posts can make things a bit untidy and messy, trolls have their uses especially when they keep bumping the thread.

Here's another channel that I found through Mic the Vegan. She's not a bad singer/songwriter either, a bit Cindi Lauperish...

 
Meanwhile, in Toronto, the dairy lobby has been reduced to complete incoherence. I think they're claiming that drinking milk will help you move faster on visits to museums.

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Meanwhile, in Toronto, the dairy lobby has been reduced to complete incoherence. I think they're claiming that drinking milk will help you move faster on visits to museums.

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I wonder if the UK dairy industry's £1.2 million campaign will reverse the trend away from the cow juice...

£1.2m dairy campaign hits back against vegan attack
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"The organisation Go Vegan World painted a horrifying picture of calves being taken from their mothers so we can have the milk they produce.

The portrayal drew complaints from the dairy industry that it painted an inaccurate and misleading picture.

However, the Advertising Standards Authority backed the accuracy of the vegan message.

Sales of cow’s milk have been declining as consumers switch to non-animal almond and soya alternatives. In addition, milk has suffered from the fact that more people are diagnosing themselves as lactose intolerant.
"
 
"Diagnosing themselves"

:facepalm:
It's a thing. My ex bf's sister decided she was lactose intolerant and glugged all me soya milk, bought vegetarian shoes like mine from Brighton. Next week she was chomping a cheese sandwich and a bag of chips cooked in beef dripping. Calls herself a veggie whilst gobbling a battered cod. It's cool to be intolerant to gluten and lactose these days. Who would have thought there are bigger dickheads than the genuine non carnivores.
 
It's a thing. My ex bf's sister decided she was lactose intolerant and glugged all me soya milk, bought vegetarian shoes like mine from Brighton. Next week she was chomping a cheese sandwich and a bag of chips cooked in beef dripping. Calls herself a veggie whilst gobbling a battered cod. It's cool to be intolerant to gluten and lactose these days. Who would have thought there are bigger dickheads than the genuine non carnivores.
Not sure that I'd describe it as "a thing" as if it's just a fad like fashionable curiosity to be dismissed as a joke. There are plenty of people that are lactose intolerant and have a strong reaction to milk products, my daughter being on of them. In our case it's nothing to do with being "cool" at all.

As for the fish eating vegetarian, well everyone is at a different place and eventually they may change their ways and at least become more consistent (and maybe not). I was one of those "fish eating vegetarians" for a while too.
 
There is a difference between lactose intolerance - the lack of lactase in the gut - and a milk allergy - an immune system reaction.

If you're lactose-intolerant you'll know about it, as milk will make you properly ill. Many people complain that milk products increase their mucus levels. This is a milk allergy, not lactose intolerance.
 
Most of the world is lactose intolerant to some degree, though the prevalence falls to about 5% among northern Europeans, which is why some alt-right idiots like to chug milk in public.

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It's possible that there's a lot more of it about than people realise and they don't associate whatever illness they have to be related to what they are eating/drinking. In our case we didn't need to get a diagnosis from a doctor as the symptoms were clear and obvious. Some people do like to scoff and are dismissive at the idea of lactose intolerance I presume because they are happy consuming dairy products and don't want it to be seen as a bad thing.
 
Not sure that I'd describe it as "a thing" as if it's just a fad like fashionable curiosity to be dismissed as a joke. There are plenty of people that are lactose intolerant and have a strong reaction to milk products, my daughter being on of them. In our case it's nothing to do with being "cool" at all.

As for the fish eating vegetarian, well everyone is at a different place and eventually they may change their ways and at least become more consistent (and maybe not). I was one of those "fish eating vegetarians" for a while too.
It was tongue in cheek paolo in response to beesonthewhatnow. People who diagnose themselves intolerant cos it's on trend etc. It's a thing? I was being a bit Stewie.
 

Sales of cow’s milk have been declining as consumers switch to non-animal almond and soya alternatives. In addition, milk has suffered from the fact that more people are diagnosing themselves as lactose intolerant.
"
Even if it's for a misguided reason, good to see the dairy industry getting anxious.
I deviated into occasional stinky cheese for a while, but it has always amazed me that people pour dairy milk in their coffee and many even consider it essential to their health, when it may actually be no better than drinking cola and when stuffed into fast food, artery-clogging as well as a very poor bang for your calorie.

Healthcare Triage: The milk emperor has no clothes!
 
Even if it's for a misguided reason, good to see the dairy industry getting anxious.
I deviated into occasional stinky cheese for a while, but it has always amazed me that people pour dairy milk in their coffee and many even consider it essential to their health, when it may actually be no better than drinking cola and when stuffed into fast food, artery-clogging as well as a very poor bang for your calorie.

Healthcare Triage: The milk emperor has no clothes!

A glug of milk in a cup of coffee or tea is a far cry from something like coke. :confused:
 
Personally I find one of the attractive aspects of tea and coffee is that they taste so good without adding fat and sugar.

But some people drink it by itself and pour it on their cereals.

I myself - briefly - when I first went veggie - around 1981 - for a while used to drink whole milk because I thought that was what you needed to do...
 
It's not about the milk, it's about the cheese.
Well yes - that and oily fish were the only two things I missed last time I was a vegan - but I can live without it - might well be more difficult living in France when a neighbour is offering me it with really good wine. :hmm:
 
Even if it's for a misguided reason, good to see the dairy industry getting anxious.
Well tbh, I think the pro-dairy folk do like to make out that the number of genuinely lactose intolerant folk is exaggerated and that most of the claims are false and some kind of fashionable fad. I don't believe that to be the case and in fact I believe that it is the other way around and that there are quite a few ailments associated with dairy consumption that many are blissfully unaware of because they believe the "milk does a body good" mantra.
 
Meanwhile, in other news...

...I stumbled across this while checking to see what was happening in the Singapore Grand Prix...
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...probably not worth getting too excited about another "celebrity endorsement" especially given that they are often short lived, nevertheless, fair play to the fella, it will hopefully get a few more people to think about the effects of their choices.
 
yes fair play but caring for the environment while jetting around the world to drive cars really fast?? :confused: :hmm:
As a driver and a frequent flyer myself, I might be in a similar (albiet less extreme) situation. I don't feel that it invalidates his concern, and this sort of publicity can have it's benefits even if it has flaws.
 
I wonder if the UK dairy industry's £1.2 million campaign will reverse the trend away from the cow juice...

£1.2m dairy campaign hits back against vegan attack
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"The organisation Go Vegan World painted a horrifying picture of calves being taken from their mothers so we can have the milk they produce.

The portrayal drew complaints from the dairy industry that it painted an inaccurate and misleading picture.

However, the Advertising Standards Authority backed the accuracy of the vegan message.

Sales of cow’s milk have been declining as consumers switch to non-animal almond and soya alternatives. In addition, milk has suffered from the fact that more people are diagnosing themselves as lactose intolerant.
"
Saw this last month...

 
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