Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[PaoloSanchez]

Was chatting about this to a fellow vegan the other day. He was quite dismissive about emo vegans. I laughed and said, there's room for everyone.

I have no idea what an "emo vegan" is or whether I should be dismissing them, lol.

If they are trying to make a difference then good on them. Earthling Ed is pretty sharp - he's sussed out that the media are trying to portray vegans in a certain light - to attempt to get vegans to take on that sort of behaviour. Also that non vegans will think "all vegans are like that" (negative stereotype).. and of course drive a divide between us all. This is quite hilarious and I can certainly relate to this in my earlier stages of veganism. But Ed seems one step ahead of all of that. I'll check out the other people.

It's quite hard to get the balance right between passion/integrity and getting the communication right. I believe it very much depends on the setting. Stuff that may work out in the street, probably won't work the same way on TV, or in a written format. It also depends on the audience too. There are a number of variables to take into account. The bottom line for me is that if you are sincere in your belief you'll eventually find the right levels to match the circumstances with experience. Joey is a good example of this. He's still learning but has come a long way from his early days and is doing good stuff in the media. Passionate but polite, even when provoked or faced with some pretty dumb folks/interviewers.

 

[editor]

Spymaster is banned from this thread for a week after several people complained about the personal abuse. I'm not monitoring this thread but will ban others who continue to post up similarly abusive content.

 

[8ball]

Spymaster is banned from this thread for a week after several people complained about the personal abuse. I'm not monitoring this thread but will ban others who continue to post up similarly abusive content.

Just as a bit of guidance in this regard, was this down to @Spymaster’s request for photographic evidence when presented with the vegans’ claim about their magnificent erections?

 

[PaoloSanchez]

I do believe that it's more likely that subtle less in your face activism is a lot more effective. I think that studies have shown this to be the case - but I'm taking another's word for it - so treading carefully with that statement.

On this subject...this fella may be of interest to you if you haven't heard of him before...



The Vegan Strategist - boldly going where no vegan has gone before

 

[editor]

Just as a bit of guidance in this regard, was this down to @Spymaster’s request for photographic evidence when presented with the vegans’ claim about their magnificent erections?

No idea what you're on about, sorry. The ban was in response to several reports about a post.

 

[8ball]

No idea what you're on about, sorry. The ban was in response to several reports about a post.

Fair enough.

I’d assumed you’d looked at the offending post, so just trying to avoid similar pitfalls.

If this was nothing to do with puncturing the thin skin of the perpetually priapic pugnacious then I’ll won’t persist in prying and step back from the prepuce.

Precipice, I mean.

 

[andysays]

Got any pics?

 

[Watermelon Man]

On this subject...this fella may be of interest to you if you haven't heard of him before...



The Vegan Strategist - boldly going where no vegan has gone before

Thanks. I'll have a look when I get a chance. Back to my comment on JA. People can be vegan for just one reason. Health, environment, animals, anti capitalism, feminism.

There are people like myself who are vegan for many different reasons. Health, animals, environment, ethics, fellow human health, anti capitalism.

The whole levels of veganism and branding "vegans" as "not being vegans" sits uncomfortable with me.

JA is a top man but it struck me that he was being a little judgemental there. If someone is vegan to reverse their heart disease..awesome. I don't see any positive outcome of telling them they are not vegan according to your own definition. Sure, if they are decked out in fur and leather, i can understand the plant based tag then...

 

[xenon]

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[Watermelon Man]

I thought it was the carnists who were fragile...

What are you talking about?

 

[xenon]

No idea what you're on about, sorry. The ban was in response to several reports about a post.

I thought it was the carnists who were fragile...

 

[8ball]

What are you talking about?

Carnists.

Short-term memory issues, the lot of ‘em.

 

[editor]

I thought it was the carnists who were fragile...

I didn't note the diets of those reporting the posts.

 

[mojo pixy]

I should maybe report a few posts, there are plenty on this thread cunting me off. Even in the last few pages. But as a non-vegan such insults are no doubt justified. And I'm hardly a fragile flower, sorry about that.

Actually the very idea of grown adults reporting any of the puerile stuff on this thread hurts my head a little. Especially when the reports are probably coming from posters who've posted worse than what they're reporting.

 

[8ball]

I didn't note the diets of those reporting the posts.

Hard to tell without a full food audit, but there may have been clues.

Were the posters robustly relaxed and good-humoured? Possibly extremely masculine in a way that made you envious of their sexual magnetism and unflappability when standing up for the oppressed? Was there any aura of a significant trouser bulge?

Did you have a sudden urge to smoke them a kipper, then feel shame at your disregard for the sentience of herring?

Not wanting to pry, obv.

 

[Watermelon Man]

Sympathies with those burning with the sense of injustice.

Welcome to our world.

Remember, the animals didn't want to die or be enslaved or have their bits interfered with to make them pregnant again in the name of ££££.

 

[8ball]

Amen, brother!!!!

 

[SpookyFrank]

i just watched a very NSFW video from Peta proving that 'vegans last longer'. So it must be true.

In the case of PETA types I reckon they can last indefinitely on account of nobody wanting to go anywhere near their genitals or any other part of them.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Sympathies with those burning with the sense of injustice.

Welcome to our world.

looool,
tbf, I'm not sure what the ban was for. If it was for "get your cock out" then that doesn't seem to be worthy of a ban. Having said that the idiot that was banned has been persistently have digs and goading since forever and continued to tag yer man even though he asked him to stop. (harrassment?) I can't think of a single positive contribution that he made to this thread.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

A post mortem on "Februdairy"...



...reminded me of this gem...

Spoiler: Warning - sensitives may find this offensive

 

[editor]

And so veganism continues to slip into the mainstream

New Meaty Vegan Burger Arriving at Major UK Supermarket

 

[tompinch]

And so veganism continues to slip into the mainstream

New Meaty Vegan Burger Arriving at Major UK Supermarket

Mainstream? Veganism has been in the mainstream for about 30 years hasn’t it?

 

[editor]

Mainstream? Veganism has been in the mainstream for about 30 years hasn’t it?

Did you find it easy to buy vegan burgers in the big supermarkets 30 years ago? How about restaurants? Did you think there were many vegan options on the menu in the 90s?

 

[8ball]

Mainstream? Veganism has been in the mainstream for about 30 years hasn’t it?

I’m struggling to think what happened around 1987 in this area...

 

[8ball]

And so veganism continues to slip into the mainstream

New Meaty Vegan Burger Arriving at Major UK Supermarket

I suppose that’s true. In the same sense that barbecue was slipping into the mainstream in 2009.

 

[tompinch]

Did you find it easy to buy vegan burgers in the big supermarkets 30 years ago? How about restaurants? Did you think there were many vegan options on the menu in the 90s?

Who cares?

Why do vegans want a burger anyway?

To most people “burger” means “meat patty”.

 

[8ball]

Who cares?.

The markets care. Quite a lot of industry buzz at the moment. People looking to reduce meat intake as the pendulum swings back from low carb/high protein and Paleo.
Plus baking is all but over.

“Flexitarian” is where it’s at right now.

 

[tompinch]

The markets care. Quite a lot of industry buzz at the moment. People looking to reduce meat intake as the pendulum swings back from low carb/high protein and Paleo.
Plus baking is all but over.

“Flexitarian” is where it’s at right now.

Which markets?

 

[Watermelon Man]

Did you find it easy to buy vegan burgers in the big supermarkets 30 years ago? How about restaurants? Did you think there were many vegan options on the menu in the 90s?

Going back 3 years or even 3 months, it's very different. A friend produces vegan guide books around London and he is struggling to keep up with the constant expansion.

Veganism is a win all round. Win for your body, for the animals, for increased peace, for a world where EVERYBODY eats, better environment and of course stronger erections.

Re world hunger why do we feed animals to feed humans (to make humans sick) when there are humans starving. That makes no sense to me.

It's great that veganism is mainstream but there's a long long way to go.

 

[Pickman's model]

Who cares?

Why do vegans want a burger anyway?

To most people “burger” means “meat patty”.

Pls engage brain before posting as explaining simple things, like the speed and convenience of burgers of all sorts, quickly palls.