Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[bimble]

oh yeah, I see, the carnist holocaust. Who was that??

 

[PaoloSanchez]

There's the 'vegan support and recipes thread' that's ticking over nicely, but I'm not sure why this one is expected to be the preaching thread (I agree with you that it does look that way).
Anyone can open a preaching thread if they want.

Actually it started off as a light hearted thread which very quickly became predominantly a "lets have a go at vegans" thread well before my first post in here. I don't accept the nonsense about "preaching". It's a fairly typical meathead complaint even when there's no preaching taking place.

Quite ironic that some people want the "do angry vegans put you off..." thread to be cleansed of meat eaters so they can be angry without having to deal with dissenters. Maybe the answer is that angry vegans are trying to repel non-vegans, and these tantrums are down to them having failed to deter all of them after so many pages.

You really should get your eyes tested. The biggest tantrums has been from your welfarist buddy, who got absolutely roasted by the troll and even transfered his embarrasing meltdown to completely unrelated threads backed by his loyal wingman and rear gunner. As I said before, I would actually welcome genuine good quality discussion points even if they are from the opposing point of view. Unfortunately there's only carcass dross on offer.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

There are good arguments for eating meat, in your opinion? Let's see you expand on that then .. or backtrack wildly and deny that what you posted means what it means. Again.

Expand on what exactly? Not only are you not able to quote or search properly, looks like you're not able to raise any decent points or questions. I've tried to avoid your posts because they're usually garbage, however you keep following me around and quoting me and butting in even when you're not part of the conversation. If you can bring yourself to make reasonable points in a friendly manner without the pointed accusations then I'd be more inclined to engage, however with the unfriendly tone you've set from your first response to me, I'm not really interested tbh.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Exactly. They are just taking on the rage from the animals they ate, that didn't want to die. If dead animal eaters had focused on what us vegans eat, we would give a shit. When we point out they are eating abuse, murder and suffering, they lose their shit.

Yeah, I don't quite get why they get so upset about accurate descriptions of what they condone. They need to take responsibility and own that shit.

 

[Spymaster]

Expand on what exactly? Not only are you not able to quote or search properly, looks like you're not able to raise any decent points or questions. I've tried to avoid your posts because they're usually garbage, however you keep following me around and quoting me and butting in even when you're not part of the conversation. If you can bring yourself to make reasonable points in a friendly manner without the pointed accusations then I'd be more inclined to engage, however with the unfriendly tone you've set from your first response to me, I'm not really interested tbh.

Yet here you are

 

[mojo pixy]

I've tried to avoid your posts...

Yeah, maybe try harder then because it's not going too well. Or are you one of those who simply must have the final word and can't settle till you have done?

Let's see.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Yeah, maybe try harder then because it's not going too well.

Well I've generously cut you a bit of slack seeing as you appear to be so desperate for my attention with your frequent "butting in" quoting me when I'm not addressing you, bordering on creepy stalking/harassment. At least that other raving lunatic nutcase with similar traits has mostly stopped although he's kinda resumed with the odd chirp.

 

[mojo pixy]

desperate for my attention

check

creepy

check

stalking/harassment

check

raving lunatic nutcase

check

Seriously, I'd just block me if I were you
Still after that last word?

 

[mojo pixy]

More to the point,

As I said earlier, I am well aware that there are some people (die hards?) who are not put off by death blood and guts, but there are also plenty that are...or at least would be if it wasn't hidden, so I don't believe I'm overestimating or underestimating anything tbh.

Same as the masses of people you seem believe would give up meat if only they knew where it came from

That's not a claim that I have made

Care to comment?
Nah actually, don't bother.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Seriously, I'd just block me if I were you

Naaah, I'm having fun observing the behaviour of an obsessive wannabe troll.

...keep it up and I might have enough material for a research paper.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Care to comment?

As I said earlier, when you tried this "gotcha", you need to pay a bit more attention to detail. I recommend Specsavers.

Nah actually, don't bother.

Oops...too late.

 

[mojo pixy]

As I said earlier, when you tried this one, you need to pay a bit more attention to detail. I recommend Specsavers.

Go on then. Fill in the ''details'' you think are missing.

No no, I know what comes next: It's not up to me to blah...
All so as not to have to say, Oh no I was wrong, or even just, Yeah actually I do think that, what of it?

It's a bit crap, is all. You come on like you have something to say but you don't really go beyond cliche.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Go on then. Fill in the ''details'' you think are missing.

Naaah, can't be arsed, you can do your own donkey work.

...actually on second thoughts, you'd need to have the intelligence of a donkey and I don't think you make the grade.

 

[mojo pixy]

I even said that would happen

 

[Watermelon Man]

You seem like one of the saner vegheads on here, so a question.

Would you refuse to travel in a car with leather seats, or sit on a leather sofa?

I wouldn't buy a car with leather seats or a leather sofa...

Refusing a lift arranged or a taxi due to leather seats is a bit extreme.

Also refusing to sit on a friends leather sofa in protest .... what is that going to achieve?

Hi...take a seat..

No thanks, I'll just stand up here and create an awkward scene and put a division between us..

No hate or judgement for those who take that stance...

 

[Spymaster]

I wouldn't buy a car with leather seats or a leather sofa...

Refusing a lift arranged or a taxi due to leather seats is a bit extreme.

Also refusing to sit on a friends leather sofa in protest .... what is that going to achieve?

Sure, but you don't find the prospect of sitting on leather upholstery repellent?

 

[PaoloSanchez]

I even said that would happen

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So...Eeyore, you got any more dumb questions in your portfolio or is that it?

 

[mojo pixy]

So...Eeyore, you got any more dumb questions in your portfolio or is that it?

Keep on giving dumb answers and talking monumental shite and I'll be sure to keep the dumb questions coming.
I think I preferred it when you were addressing me in the 3rd person tbh.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Keep on giving dumb answers and talking monumental shite and I'll be sure to keep the dumb questions coming.

Well I've seen your monumental shite, and I'm raising it.

Good fun this.

So go on then, next dumb question...dumbass.

 

[mojo pixy]

Good fun this.

Really? You're having fun? Not plumbing new depths of moral understanding or emotional intelligence, not learning new information and discussing how to apply it in real life. You're having fun cunting off some stranger online for no particular reason. Good fun this. FFS.

 

[keybored]

"ur dumb"
"no u"
Good thread.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

Really? You're having fun? Not plumbing new depths of moral understanding or emotional intelligence, not learning new information and discussing how to apply it in real life. You're having fun cunting off some stranger online for no particular reason. Good fun this. FFS.

Yeah. It's f'kin hilarious, cunting off a genuine cunt, giving him a taste of his/her own medicine. Why aren't you laughing?

If you've got any interesting "new information" feel free to share it. I'll let you know if it's any good.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

I wouldn't buy a car with leather seats or a leather sofa...

Refusing a lift arranged or a taxi due to leather seats is a bit extreme.

Also refusing to sit on a friends leather sofa in protest .... what is that going to achieve?

Hi...take a seat..

No thanks, I'll just stand up here and create an awkward scene and put a division between us..

No hate or judgement for those who take that stance...

I'm not sure what the obsession meat eaters have with these grey areas. It's as if they're just looking for excuses, diverting attention away from their own potentially immoral practices with examples of alleged "vegan extremism" and "weirdness" because apparently nearly all vegans behave in exactly the same way.

I wouldn't buy a new car with leather seats either, but I have in the past. My current car has leather trim around the steering wheel, I visited my friends house on Sunday and sat on their white leather sofa and I once accidentally stepped on a snail. Now meat eaters can justifiably support killing and eating animals because "vegan hypocrisy tho". ffs.

 

[8ball]

Almost 5,000 posts. Has anyone been converted yet?

I was just about to renounce the carnist holocaust, then they banned the Messiah and I lost my focus.
I think we now know exactly who is in the pay of Big Meat.

 

[8ball]

Exactly. They are just taking on the rage from the animals they ate, that didn't want to die.

It's like a new homeopathy-type mechanism has been discovered!

 

[Watermelon Man]

Sure, but you don't find the prospect of sitting on leather upholstery repellent?

I have leather items from the days when I was a victim of the meat and dairy industries.

A belt, shoes, two hats, a watch strap.

I don't start melting when I see them...

When I see women thinking they look glam wearing leather...i find it a bit odd. They are wearing dead dog/cow etc.

One thing that saddens me is that fur is now highly fashionable. Lots of men wearing fur these days.

Meat and dairy eating men have much lower testosterone than vegan men. That may explain it?

 

[andysays]

I have leather items from the days when I was a victim of the meat and dairy industries.

A belt, shoes, two hats, a watch strap.

I don't start melting when I see them...

When I see women thinking they look glam wearing leather...i find it a bit odd. They are wearing dead dog/cow etc.

One thing that saddens me is that fur is now highly fashionable. Lots of men wearing fur these days.

Meat and dairy eating men have much lower testosterone than vegan men. That may explain it?

Stench of misogyny worse than alleged stench of dead animals.

 

[Watermelon Man]

I'm not sure what the obsession meat eaters have with these grey areas. It's as if they're just looking for excuses, diverting attention away from their own potentially immoral practices with examples of alleged "vegan extremism" and "weirdness" because apparently nearly all vegans behave in exactly the same way.

I wouldn't buy a new car with leather seats either, but I have in the past. My current car has leather trim around the steering wheel, I visited my friends house on Sunday and sat on their white leather sofa and I once accidentally stepped on a snail. Now meat eaters can justifiably support killing and eating animals because "vegan hypocrisy tho". ffs.

Yeah. It's pretty evident but maybe all part of the programming? Check out interviews with Matthew Glover (veganuary) or more so with Joey Carbstrong.

The questions they don't want to ask is things like why have you stayed vegan?

What is the difference in your health?

Are you happier as a vegan?

Is your general well being better?

Predominantly the answers to those questions are going to be very positive.

Matthew highlighted all these points well.

Joey focuses more on ethics.

Both good but Matthew's style probably more effective.

 

[bimble]

Meat and dairy eating men have much lower testosterone than vegan men.

That's .. intersting. Just had a google and advice if you want to raise your t levels seems to be to eat more tuna eggs beef etc.

 

[Watermelon Man]

That's .. intersting. Just had a google and advice if you want to raise your t levels seems to be to eat more tuna eggs beef etc.

It must be true then...get consuming...

It's an interesting one for sure. One day I'll study in depth. In terms of masculinity I personally feel it's more masculine to be vegan.

Firstly, the t levels.

Then there's the erections. Vegans have stronger erections.

Vegan male sweat is more attractive to women than non vegan male sweat.

There's a load of other examples but those three are quite fun ones...