Why are we human? If not to have choices - And what could be a more noble choice than to choose not to consume the flesh of an living, breathing, thinking animal?
Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think people have had enough of experts.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
There is no why.
Yes, I see myself as enlightened - Because I am enlightened. In much the same way the abolitionists were enlightened. What of it?
You were the one bringing "science" into the debate.
Don't try to confuse you with facts. OK.
Obviously there is no "why", except the "why" we have the power to make for ourselves - And, AFAIC, that "why", is to do what we can to prevent the continuation of the animal holocaust.
Carry on consuming the cooked flesh of once living, breathing creatures - Rest assured that not too far into the future, your desires will be considered no less abhorrent than those of the paedophile.
Oh he makes jokes about the carnage he participates in. Lovely.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think you might be onto something with the holocaust schiz. For some reason I've never looked at it like that.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I happen to think reality has a bearing on things generally.
I'm aware that this has always been a minority view, though.
Opera Buffa
griddling
He means it isn't right. Public morality and what is normative is constantly changing - 200 years ago all the men on this thread would have considered it morally right and normative to beat or rape their wives.
If we're white British, we would have considered ourselves morally superior to black people or the Irish.
Popular morality changes, the norm changes, and conservatives don't want to let go of their old, incorrect views.
Veganism will be huge in 200 years time. But it will take that long for popular perceptions to turn around.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Good feeling, yeah?
Opera Buffa
griddling
Trump supporters 'honestly disagree' with me, that doesn't add any credence to their opinions.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Absolutely. But it doesn't mean they're being paid to not agree with you.
No, I know when I'm being ridiculed - But I'm right - All Lives matter, whether human or animal - And how else can one describe the grotesque death-factories that we call abattoirs apart from a holocaust? It's not hyperbolic to call it a holocaust, it's underestimating the seriousness to compare the animal holocaust with the WW2 holocaust.
Opera Buffa
griddling
Not trying to be thick here but I don't get what this means, can you rephrase it?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So much to pick from but I'll go for this.
Stuffing oneself with the remains of sentient (I'll be kind and edit you here, you mean sentient no doubt) beings is worthy of italics. Just saying the words is enough to demonstrate its wrongness. It is an analytic truth, for you and for others on here too.
No, not at all - It horrifies me that so many so-called "reasonable" people can seemingly willingly participate (or at least participate by doing nothing to prevent it) in a holocaust.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
There was the stuff earlier about the scientist who had changed his mind about whether carb loading was necessarily a good idea.
It was assumed among some vegan posters that he had been paid off.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
None of those comparisons you've chosen is a) accurate or b) comparable.
Opera Buffa
griddling
This is quite good. It's an hour long. It was shown on BBC2 about fifteen years ago, I remember watching it at the time.
I think it's a little pro-vegan/veggie, but still a fairly neutral look at the meat industry. I cannot be a part of this, what happens. It's horrific.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Concentration camps?
Actually say something, will you? "It is an analytic truth, for you and for others on here too." What's that actually supposed to mean? It's self evidently wrong to eat animals - That's what I'm saying & there's no need to bring all your wibble into it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Are you in America VeganMight ?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think you protest too much here.
Good feeling to be righteous crusader before his time.
Don't you think?
Obviously the tortured stance is part of the deal.
The fight is always better than the victory.
How can you be aware of the truth and yet ridicule it? Have you deliberately sabotaged your own moral compass?
Keep telling yourself that. As I'm sure, the concentration camp guards told themselves - Which side do you want to be on?
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