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David Icke: Was he right? C5 11pm (boxing day)

BEARBOT said:
the fact that david icke draws such big audiences is SO frustrating.

the fact that the TRUE things he states about us/uk governments seeking to control their populations/take away our freedoms thru various legislations which are supposedly to "fight terroists" are then NEGATED by all his far out lizard madness...it really drives me batshit!:mad:

the speculations made my some posters that he is a "disinformation agent" or perhaps that he doesnt beleive all the material he presents himself and just comes out with far out crap to make a lot of cash seem possible..but IMHO its largely just his mental health issues coupled with a big ego that are fueling him.


i still really want to know why michael moore is such a bad guy raver drew,any websites/links you can point me in the direction of i will take a look at..im very interested, cheers!
i came across a document online after farenheit 911 was broadcast in the uk and it tore the film to shreds. im sure it can be googled; something about the facts of farenheit 911 by the independent society or something.
it mentions that the woman who, during the course of the film is protrayed as being super-patriotic, then her son dies in Iraq, then she becomes anti-bush was already aware of the death of her son prior to the filming (its not presented that way). It doesn't show, during the scene where someone criticises her outside the whitehouse, that critic actually apologising because she didn't know the woman had lost her son. It neglects to mention the UK as one of the many 'insignificant' countries allied with the US. It protrays Iraq as some kind of social utopia with kids flying balloons (no mention of Saddam's treatment of his own people). There's a whoe bunch of stuff that is worng with that film and Moore is nothing more than a sensationalist who uses cheap media trickery to make, albeit, ruin a good point. I don't agree with the war in Iraq, but I also don't agree with Moore's attempt at manipulating me into agreeing with me and in so doing his becoming some kind of folk hero.

it also mentions that one of the guys who got wheeled into wal mart in bowling for clumbine wasn't actually against guns either (one of the gunshot victims).
 
wishface said:
i came across a document online after farenheit 911 was broadcast in the uk and it tore the film to shreds.
Naturally, you fully researched the claims being made by this forgotten online "document" and carefully checked the credibility, qualifications and any possible political motivations of its authors, right?

No? Whyever not?
 
Jazzz said:
editor you are quite insufferable :rolleyes:
Oh look. It's another unprovoked personal attack from Jazzz in the absence of anything approaching a defence to my points.

:rolleyes:

The fact that you think that a post declaring that someone "came across" an unknown, unnamed and since forgotten document "online" somewhere or another represents some sort of credible argument speaks volume of your woeful inability to research your idiotic claims.

Not so long ago you were citing a fucking sci-fi fantasy article set in the year 2012 as 'proof' of the existence of holographic WTC-toppling planes.

It was only when people bothered to do the research you should have done in the first place you realised that you'd made a king size arse of yourself again. I've lost count of the times you've posted up such unresearched shite. It's a joke.

And now you have the fucking nerve to complain when I ask a poster to back up and qualify his equally vague claims.

I guess you just prefer to avoid researching and checking your bonkers claims and would rather live in your deluded conspira-bubble, eh?
 
I'm no fan - guy is a bit dogmatic for me but you can't deny some of what he said (with hindsight) was spot on.
 
editor said:
So if I told you Bob Hope was in fact a talking walnut wrapped up in a holographic human projection, you'd think that an equally likely proposition?
yes

you (and the others who so gleefully attack conspiraloons at every opportunity) are obviously quite content living with your beliefs so it would be pointless for me to try and change them.

and blagsta, yes i am on drugs. I've been smoking some very good bud for a couple of weeks) and no i'm not related to max freakout.
 
Pavlik said:
and blagsta, yes i am on drugs. I've been smoking some very good bud for a couple of weeks)

Ahhhhh. That'll explain the bollocks you come out with then.
 
Pavlik said:
ah good, normal service has been resumed on urban.
doesn't it get tiring being right all the time?
Are you 4 real or are you a typing walnut wrapped up in a holographic human projection?
 
editor said:
Oh look. It's another unprovoked personal attack from Jazzz in the absence of anything approaching a defence to my points.

:rolleyes:

The fact that you think that a post declaring that someone "came across" an unknown, unnamed and since forgotten document "online" somewhere or another represents some sort of credible argument speaks volume of your woeful inability to research your idiotic claims.

Not so long ago you were citing a fucking sci-fi fantasy article set in the year 2012 as 'proof' of the existence of holographic WTC-toppling planes.

It was only when people bothered to do the research you should have done in the first place you realised that you'd made a king size arse of yourself again. I've lost count of the times you've posted up such unresearched shite. It's a joke.

And now you have the fucking nerve to complain when I ask a poster to back up and qualify his equally vague claims.

I guess you just prefer to avoid researching and checking your bonkers claims and would rather live in your deluded conspira-bubble, eh?
I'd rather you simply stopped acting like a tit. Why not just let people say what they think? It's not as if you have to agree.
 
Jazzz said:
I'd rather you simply stopped acting like a tit. Why not just let people say what they think? It's not as if you have to agree.

People should be allowed to say what they think, but also deserve the appropriate degree of ridicule if their beliefs are insane
 
Jazzz said:
Why not just let people say what they think?
People can say whatever they like - Lord knows I've let you get enough with enough offensive shit over the years - but I have every right to ask posters to back up their vague claims.

I know you regularly like to take unsourced "found on the internet" claims at face value, but I'm proud of the fact that most posters here demand a little more from debates.

You seem upset that I've dared to ask a poster to provide some details about his vague, foggy claims about a forgotten, unnamed online document written by an unknown author some time or another that supposedly "tore the farenheit 911 film to shreds."

Why is that? It's got nothing to do with you.
Why shouldn't I ask for clarification?
 
editor said:
People can say whatever they like - Lord knows I've let you get enough with enough offensive shit over the years - but I have every right to ask posters to back up their vague claims.

I know you regularly like to take unsourced "found on the internet" claims at face value, but I'm proud of the fact that most posters here demand a little more from debates.

You seem upset that I've dared to ask a poster to provide some details about his vague, foggy claims about a forgotten, unnamed online document written by an unknown author some time or another that supposedly "tore the farenheit 911 film to shreds."

Why is that? It's got nothing to do with you.
Why shouldn't I ask for clarification?
Well, I still care that you drag any 'conspiracy' thread down into an endless interrogate-a-thon, and I don't see how you can suddenly go 'it's got nothing to do with you', no consideration like that would ever stop you posting on a thread.

Had you wanted clarification you could simply ask 'have you got a link for that wishface?' - but no :rolleyes:
 
I think the walnut's a bit cracked...

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