littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Meanwhile, England need to win two of their last three games to stand a decent chance of playing in the Champions Trophy. They have a lot to play for!
Cricket World Cup 2023
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
NZ have a positive NRR of around 0.3 if they're bowled out right now.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Even if England win their last three games, they need one of NZ and Aus to lose all their remaining games. And they need to win their games by huge margins and to hope that NZ/Aus lose by huge margins.
They also need other, more likely things, like Afghanistan not winning all their remaining games. ETA: Sorry not quite right. They need Afghanistan to lose two of their remaining three games.
And that's just to get to the semis to play, in all probability, India!
That's shite odds.
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I think the first thing is for the opening partnership in the next game to be Elvis and the Loch Ness Monster. After that it gets a bit improbable though.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbf NZ are doing their best for England here.
Their NRR is still going to be at least 0.4. Pakistan need to beat them quite heavily in the next game to go above them as they enter the final round. NZ not qualifying is now a distinct possibility, though.
I wouldn't count out Afghanistan either. Beat the Netherlands next up and they're right in the mix.
Their NRR is still going to be at least 0.4. Pakistan need to beat them quite heavily in the next game to go above them as they enter the final round. NZ not qualifying is now a distinct possibility, though.
I wouldn't count out Afghanistan either. Beat the Netherlands next up and they're right in the mix.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Looking at realistic goals, I think England want Afghanistan to beat the Dutch. Realistically, England should be aiming for two wins out of three to see them sneak above Bangladesh and the Netherlands.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I've put a score on Afghanistan at 66/1
While I like this idea. It's going to be India or the Saffas. I wish they'd fucking hurry up and get to the business end.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think it's anyone's once we reach the semis. It's the nature of ODIs (and t20) that any team can beat any team on any given day. Just takes one or two outstanding individual performances.
Pakistan sneaking into fourth place then beating India in the semis? Could happen. They could easily reduce India to 30-4 or something.
Lots of things could still happen. England qualifying for the semis isn't one of them.
I can't do fractions. But I'm thinking this is England favourities to finish bottom?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No. They're in order so Bangladesh are favourites to finish bottom.
Those are actually decent odds on England there. Better value for you, Spy?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Important runs these for NZ. Interesting that they've sent Henry out. He's pretty much bound to damage that hamstring more. Suggests to me that they think he's out of the tournament regardless.
Sasaferrato
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I'm still painting doorframes. 
Bloody top hall has eight doors. Bathroom, two bedrooms and computer room and four cupboards.
Bloody top hall has eight doors. Bathroom, two bedrooms and computer room and four cupboards.planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I'm still painting doorframes.
Beginning to think watching paint dry is preferable to this tournament
Sasaferrato
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I'm nearly there. Thank fuck.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
ODIs predate Packer. As with many things, limited overs cricket was first innovated in England's county system to generate revenue for the professional circuit. See also T20.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I still think it is too early to judge the tournament as a whole. Attendances have picked up and there may still be the odd twist. And the semis and final could save it. If the final is a classic, a lot will be forgotten.
One big plus for 50-overs over t20 is the prominence it gives to bowlers. The two top teams on the table are the two teams with the best fast bowling units. For all the big hitting, it is the likes of Bumrah, Shami, Rabada and Jansen who have had the biggest impact. Bumrah in particular is India's most important player. Any given team's most important player is normally their best bowler. That's true in tests and also usually in 50-over cricket.
One big plus for 50-overs over t20 is the prominence it gives to bowlers. The two top teams on the table are the two teams with the best fast bowling units. For all the big hitting, it is the likes of Bumrah, Shami, Rabada and Jansen who have had the biggest impact. Bumrah in particular is India's most important player. Any given team's most important player is normally their best bowler. That's true in tests and also usually in 50-over cricket.
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Could they not draft Brendon McCullum?
Now that would be something. He's in the country apparently.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Kohli gone. Can SL pull this back?
I know they're used to playing in this kind of heat, but really, bowl first?
I know they're used to playing in this kind of heat, but really, bowl first?
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
That was quite a six.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
