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foggypane said:
I suggested that the Cubans could get rid of Castro if they wanted, by means of a revolution if need be. I'd suggest that, as he has been around for the better part of a geological epoch, they must be reasonably satisfied.
Does the same analysis hold true for the North Koreans? Are they, too, "reasonably satisfied"? Is there nowhere a dictator who ruthlessly maintains power in the face of popular disaffection?
 
rogue yam said:
Does the same analysis hold true for the North Koreans? Are they, too, "reasonably satisfied"? Is there nowhere a dictator who ruthlessly maintains power in the face of popular disaffection?


| don't know about N K, funnily enough none of my friends have been there on enjoyable and unchaperoned holidays. Obviously, there are/have been plenty of dictators who blah blah. Good diversion. Cubans could have got rid of Castro any time, but I would venture, not enough of them want to.
 
rogue yam said:
Does the same analysis hold true for the North Koreans? Are they, too, "reasonably satisfied"? Is there nowhere a dictator who ruthlessly maintains power in the face of popular disaffection?
How mad are you :)

You're mental :D
 
rogue yam said:
You embarass yourself. Cuba is a dictatorship. The U.S. is not. Face it.
The U.S. is not a dictatorship?

How many dictatorships has the U.S. inflicted upon others yam? Are you aware
 
ViolentPanda said:
Um, that'd be your whining about going to the mods if anyone dared diss you, bubeleh.

Thing is, if you throw a public tantrum, and then action takes place because of that tantrum, then...

Your memory is faulty. That was directed at nino, not at the boards in general.

Check back if you think I'm wrong.
 
foggypane said:
I never said the US was a dictatorship. It did emerge from a revolution against a 'tyrant' though.

I suggested that the Cubans could get rid of Castro if they wanted, by means of a revolution if need be. I'd suggest that, as he has been around for the better part of a geological epoch, they must be reasonably satisfied.

Sort of like the Iraqis could have gotten rid of Saddam if they didn't like him?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Sort of like the Iraqis could have gotten rid of Saddam if they didn't like him?
They didn't get a choice in the first place did they?

Saddam was a CIA creation in the first place.

If you want to argue the toss...argue.
 
rogue yam said:
Does the same analysis hold true for the North Koreans? Are they, too, "reasonably satisfied"? Is there nowhere a dictator who ruthlessly maintains power in the face of popular disaffection?

It's appropriate that americans should feel good about themselves in relation to north koreans - it is one of the few countries whose people are worse off than yourselves.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Sort of like the Iraqis could have gotten rid of Saddam if they didn't like him?


Yeah, a bit like that, or maybe like the Chileans got rid of that pesky Allende with his dangerous notions about wealth redistribution.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Your memory is faulty. That was directed at nino, not at the boards in general.

Check back if you think I'm wrong.

You're the lowest of the low. You have just lied to VP but have the affrontery to claim that it was "directed at me". You're pathetic and a liar.

The proof is here.

#139 10-02-2006, 09:02 PM
Johnny Canuck2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViolentPanda
Y'know, I'm sure there's a requirement to post comment alongside any links, rather than just posting up links alone.



You gonna tell on me?

There is simply no way that you can claim that this post was directed at me...ah, but you're ignoring me and the reason is obvious: I expose your lies
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Sort of like the Iraqis could have gotten rid of Saddam if they didn't like him?
not while the US was propping up his regime, no!
after that, quite possibly.
for the record; neither the Ba'ath or Saddam would EVER have taken control of Iraq without active US connivance and support.
makes you proud, eh?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Your memory is faulty. That was directed at nino, not at the boards in general.

Check back if you think I'm wrong.

Johnny, you're dissembling.

Whether your original pissing, moaning and whining was directed entirely at one particular person is irrelevant, the fact that you actually threatened and carried out your threat so is what is relevant.

What's also relevant is your asking me whether I'd snitch on you for the multiple C & Ps you made without posting comment. Projection of one's own less admirable traits onto others is a very sad thing, and I believe that you realise that and perhaps feel some little shame at your actions.
 
rogue yam said:
AI has an agenda which is socialistic world government. They "do" whatever they think will best serve this goal. The concept of "accuracy" is promoted to mask their role as an advocate of a particular political system.
and, err, can you prove or substantiate any of these ridiculous assertions?
btw, its' founder was NOT a socialist - in fact IIRC he supported the Liberal Party in the UK. he did however have a passionate concern for human rights.
 
rogue yam said:
AI has an agenda which is socialistic world government. They "do" whatever they think will best serve this goal. The concept of "accuracy" is promoted to mask their role as an advocate of a particular political system. AI is "taken seriously" in direct proportion to whether one supports their goal.

Utter bollocks as usual. The last thing I would call AI is 'socialistic' :rolleyes:
 
vimto said:
The U.S. is not a dictatorship?

How many dictatorships has the U.S. inflicted upon others yam? Are you aware

Quite a few of RY's list of 'unfree' nations he popped up with earlier on another thread.. :rolleyes:

Quoted from RY on the other thread about Condo Rice.

'You talk crap. Any list of countries less free and democratic than the United States must also include Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Bhutan, Brunei, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Colombia, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Guinea, Haiti, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Morocco, Nepal, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Sierra Leon, Somalia, Sudan, Swaziland, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. I've seen you post a lot of stupid lies to this site, but this might be your most worthless post yet. You are a disgrace.'
 
rogue yam said:
You embarass yourself. Cuba is a dictatorship. The U.S. is not. Face it.
as a matter of interest, do you actually know ANYTHING about Cuba, other than that some guy called Castro is in charge? No? thought not.
Just for the record, Tio Fidel is a HUGELY popular leader. I have witnessed myself, in conversation late at night, in smoky bars in downtown havana. The Cuban people love him for his charisma, and the pride he has given them, and for delivering them from ANOTHER dictatorship - one installed and maintained by an unholy alliance of CIA, Mafia, and US Govt. you remember him, yes? Fellow called Batista?
And, btw, no citizen of a nation which has installed and supported as many barbaric and tyrannical regimes as yours has, has ANY business shouting 'dictator! dictator!" at any other nation or its' people.
 
Red Jezza said:
as a matter of interest, do you actually know ANYTHING about Cuba, other than that some guy called Castro is in charge? No? thought not.
Just for the record, Tio Fidel is a HUGELY popular leader. I have witnessed myself, in conversation late at night, in smoky bars in downtown havana. The Cuban people love him for his charisma, and the pride he has given them, and for delivering them from ANOTHER dictatorship - one installed and maintained by an unholy alliance of CIA, Mafia, and US Govt. you remember him, yes? Fellow called Batista?
And, btw, no citizen of a nation which has installed and supported as many barbaric and tyrannical regimes as yours has, has ANY business shouting 'dictator! dictator!" at any other nation or its' people.

We're always getting this feeble nonsense from the bushbots and neo cons, who always make the same accusations as their programmers (and will often cite some right wing article somewhere)...but none of them have ever talked to any Cubans, apart from those mobsters living in Miami whose views on Castro are one-sided. Does RY think that Cuba was a perfect paradise before the revolution...or does he believe that the former fixed floating brothel/casino was a paragon of democracy?

Fuck him, he doesn't even know who Batista was.
 
absolutely. RY's amnesia on the US's, umm, patchy record on assisting democracy elsewhere is quite remarkable.
btw; RY, one other thing you don't know about Cuba; by and large, and with exceptions, the Cuban people enjoy more freedom under castro than they did under Batista, and prolly under any other ruler before that.
 
nino_savatte said:
You're the lowest of the low. You have just lied to VP but have the affrontery to claim that it was "directed at me". You're pathetic and a liar.

The proof is here.

There is simply no way that you can claim that this post was directed at me...ah, but you're ignoring me and the reason is obvious: I expose your lies

I sense an agenda from Nino here.
 
phildwyer said:
Why do you *always* rush in to help Nino when he is in distress? Do you by any chance serve the same agenda?

It's funny how no one ever rushes to your aid - isn't it? But then who, in their right mind, would offer assistance to raving egomaniac and liar like you? Johnny Canuck perhaps but no one else.

You and Johnny are made for each other. I hope you will be truly happy together...when is the wedding?

Oh, I don't need anyone to come to my aid. VP recognises you for the waste of space you are and takes the piss accordingly.
 
rogue yam

Originally Posted by rogue yam
"AI has an agenda which is socialistic world government. They "do" whatever they think will best serve this goal. The concept of "accuracy" is promoted to mask their role as an advocate of a particular political system. AI is "taken seriously" in direct proportion to whether one supports their goal."

please present your information on this accusation.
 
Ing_soc said:
rogue yam

Originally Posted by rogue yam
"AI has an agenda which is socialistic world government. They "do" whatever they think will best serve this goal. The concept of "accuracy" is promoted to mask their role as an advocate of a particular political system. AI is "taken seriously" in direct proportion to whether one supports their goal."

please present your information on this accusation.


I'd be interested to hear RY's 'evidence' as well. You might have to chase him round the boards to get some sort of answer (which will probably turn out to be some old cack from Fox news unfortunately) :D
 
Ing_soc said:
rogue yam

Originally Posted by rogue yam
"AI has an agenda which is socialistic world government. They "do" whatever they think will best serve this goal. The concept of "accuracy" is promoted to mask their role as an advocate of a particular political system. AI is "taken seriously" in direct proportion to whether one supports their goal."

please present your information on this accusation.
Google the following three exact phrases simultaneously, and then get back to me:

"democratic socialists of america" "progressive coalition" "amnesty international"
 
rogue yam said:
Google the following three exact phrases simultaneously, and then get back to me:

"democratic socialists of america" "progressive coalition" "amnesty international"

I'm surprised you didn't chuck the ACLU or the NEA in there.

Are the only approved organisations those which advocate violence and death and the industries that support those things? Organisations like the NRA, The Heritage Foundation, The Daughters of the American Revolution, The Confederate Sons of America...oh, did I mention them? Silly me...but they are up your street - non?
 
oh ffs, that's ridiculous! I worked, as a volunteer, at the GLOBAL HQ of amnesty. it's CRAMMED with wussy middle-of-the-road liberals. The whole ethos of the organisation and one of its' charter's key points is to have no PERMANENT, fixed alliance with any political party.
 
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