Can there be a revolution in the UK

[tbaldwin]

Given that in certain circles in the 1970s there was talk of bringing in the colonels, I'd say that at least some have seen a revolution in UK as a serious proposition.

I think this proves more how reformism is what scares the most reactionary members of the ruling classes.
They hate Blair with a vengeance because he's beaten the Tories twice.
They have been bought up to believe in their god given right to rule.
I don't think the revolutionary left have ever been treated seriously by these people. But reformism now that really does get them cross.

 

[Ryazan]

Nah, just curious as to why Butchersapron mentioned Jews.

 

[FreddyB]

I think this proves more how reformism is what scares the most reactionary members of the ruling classes.
They hate Blair with a vengeance because he's beaten the Tories twice.
They have been bought up to believe in their god given right to rule.
I don't think the revolutionary left have ever been treated seriously by these people. But reformism now that really does get them cross.

Blair isn't reformist unless you mean he's reformed the views of himself and his party

 

[butchersapron]

Why mention Jews?

I was asking the poster Bamboo whether s/he believes that the international banking conspiracy was in their view connected with 'jews' - the words 'usury' 'rothschild' 'banks' in one post is usually taken as an indication of the posters having 'certain opinions' on 'jews'. I was trying to clarify the situation.

If you weren't such a self-pitying miserable bleeder you might have picked up on that.

 

[tbaldwin]

Blair isn't reformist unless you mean he's reformed the views of himself and his party

He is reformist, see the House Of Lords. And go onto Labour party website to see Labours top 50 achievements.

 

[Ryazan]

Hi Butchersapron.

I know, my initial response was to Bamboo, then you butted in with your lovely and charming "so?"

I had to oblige from then on, and hey, I got a reaction out of you.

You are not usually this easy to wind up. Pity.

 

[butchersapron]

Hi Butchersapron.

I know, my initial response was to Bamboo, then you butted in with your lovely and charming "so?"

I had to oblige from then on, and hey, I got a reaction out of you.

You are not usually this easy to wind up. Pity.

Odd then, how Bamboo didn't even mention the Jews it was me, you just happened to come up with something jewish related 3 hours after bamboos post and 7 minutes after i did - and that you then followed it up by posting to no one in particular:

"Nah, just curious as to why Butchersapron mentioned Jews."

Don't compound an idiocy with a lie. Or am i too to face the terror of Stanley or your 'skinhead' mates (what decade is this - who's scared of skinheads except media types - they barely exist).

 

[FreddyB]

He is reformist, see the House Of Lords. And go onto Labour party website to see Labours top 50 achievements.

Do you think this represents reform towards the left though or simply modernising the strcture that already exists towards more corporate influence?

 

[Ryazan]

Butchersapron-

Dear Oh dear.

I got the connections in Bamboo's post. I believe I mentioned the Belarussian Yid (although true) as a kind of joke to get a response from Bamboo, you butt in instead, and then I had to carry on. It was so much fun.

You really are an arrogant little twerp aren't you.

"compound and idiocy with a lie".

Why am I an idiot? You seem to have a persecution complex. I was more interested in what bamboo had had to say, the time he/she put his/her post up on this thread is quite an irrelevance.

You really aren't that important.

 

[butchersapron]

You're lying. You were replying to me - you're now trying to construct a defence entirely stolen from my my own question to bamboo, as explained to you. Give it up.

 

[Ryazan]

Bamboo makes connections between international Jewry and the world's ills. I mention that my girlfriend's grandfather was a Jew in Belarus during the Great Patriotic War, fighting the Nazis, who weren't particularly fond of Jews I believe. Hopefully this would have, in a sly joking manner, have made Bamboo think about what he/she had posted.

I must admit, I enjoyed winding you up, but my inital post was not to you. So run along now, I'm getting bored. But lets not forget the crap you have slung at me on other threads. You have brought this on yourself Butchersapron. You could not reisist.

 

[butchersapron]

Bamboo makes connections between international Jewry and the world's ills. I mention that my girlfriend's grandfather was a Jew in Belarus during the Great Patriotic War, fighting the Nazis, who weren't particularly fond of Jews I believe. Hopefully this would have, in a sly joking manner, have made Bamboo think about what he had posted.

I must admit, I enjoyed winding you up, but my inital post was not to you. So run along now, I'm getting bored. But lets not forget the crap you have slung at me on other threads. You have brought this on yourself Butchersapron. You could not reisist.

Um.. not it didn't - i suggested them, i tried to clarify the few hiiden hints in their post. You jumped on me because you were too thick to get what i was doing. It's quite transparent what you did and what you're now trying to do. So give it up.

I've slung one insult at you in your whole miserable time here and that was after i'd had enough of your utterly vapid stereotypes of anyone that isn't you - not to mention your equally vapid threats to stripe people.

'Winding me up' - mate you've not made me lift my liitle finger and you're still coming out on the wrong end of this one.

 

[butchersapron]

And just to finish this one:

I asked you why you posted your mesage about your GF's grandad and you answered that it was in order to ask me:

"Why mention Jews?"

Sweet Fanny Adams to do with bamboo's post - as you yourself admitted.

 

[Ryazan]

To wind you up. But I stand by my defence of the first post not being aimed at you.

Your attacks against me are nothing but stereotypical nonsense, the panoply of a man without content.

 

[LLETSA]

(what decade is this - who's scared of skinheads except media types - they barely exist).

I think Ryazan claimed in another thread to be in Manchester. The last time I saw 'a gang of skinheads' ("into ska" and all that, no less) in Manchester it was about 1983 and they were on their way out then.

The dress style lives on only in the gay village as far as I can see.

 

[audiotech]

I think Ryazan claimed in another thread to be in Manchester. The last time I saw 'a gang of skinheads' ("into ska" and all that, no less) in Manchester it was about 1983 and they were on their way out then.

The dress style lives on only in the gay village as far as I can see.

You didn't see the item tonight on TV with Buster Bloodvessel I take it? Lip up fatty!

 

[butchersapron]

He's normally only on the telly at FA cup time...what's going on?

 

[audiotech]

He's normally only on the telly at FA cup time...what's going on?

He's lost an amazing amount of weight in a pioneering operation performed in a Leeds hospital. They removed most of his stomach and stapled what was left. It was strange seeing him perform (with new energy) to an audience of skinheads in their thirties, forties and fifties. For some of them choice of hairstyle was mandatory due to congenital baldness.

 

[butchersapron]

Fair play to him then. Hope they hold.

 

[Chuck Wilson]

I think Ryazan claimed in another thread to be in Manchester. The last time I saw 'a gang of skinheads' ("into ska" and all that, no less) in Manchester it was about 1983 and they were on their way out then.

The dress style lives on only in the gay village as far as I can see.

There are a few middle aged ones in the scooter clubs in Manchester which have had a bit of a revival he past couple of years but if the two at work are an example they are more weekend 'associates' more than gangs .They do run a couple of reasonable Northern Soul and Ska nights though.

 

[LLETSA]

There are a few middle aged ones in the scooter clubs in Manchester which have had a bit of a revival he past couple of years but if the two at work are an example they are more weekend 'associates' more than gangs .They do run a couple of reasonable Northern Soul and Ska nights though.

On holiday in rural Wiltshire a year or two ago I attended a ska gig in a pub and it was the same there - forty-five year-old skinheads who surely don't dress like that every day anymore.

The band was rather good but believe it or not, a couple of the aforementioned succeeded in kicking it off. It ended up as little more than a skirmish and it was their mates that calmed things down. "Is that Swindon Town's firm," my other half quipped.

 

[butchersapron]

One of the main faces (serious bloke, really nice lad as well) used to live down the back of me (in Somerset - which should let anyone connected know who i mean) - still into it all, but got no time for the wasters. Esp those that think they're firm. Know what/who i mean? Gandads at weddings.

You got kids Chuck?

 

[Ryazan]

I think Ryazan claimed in another thread to be in Manchester. The last time I saw 'a gang of skinheads' ("into ska" and all that, no less) in Manchester it was about 1983 and they were on their way out then.

The dress style lives on only in the gay village as far as I can see.

Nah, I said I met some anarchists in Manchester. I'm living in Morecambe at the mo.

 

[DLB's mate]

Revolutionary groups actually start a revolution, never, even if they stopped fighting each other it would take another 30 years for them to form the required committees needed to discuss how the committee for revolutionary action was to be selected.

 

[Ryazan]

IThe dress style lives on only in the gay village as far as I can see.

I go there quite often. Napoleon's is good place if you want an easy shag.

 

[bamboo]

This ones got a thing about the number eight it seems.

There's nothing like a thread with 'revolution' in the title to attract the nutters. And I don't mean just the fascists.

mere coincidence, 8 happens to be the number of times the US currency has switched between control by congress and control by private banks,

www.themoneymasters.com

and 8 years, sorry its 7 now is the countdown to 2012, which as you all know will be armageddon, (and I wasn't exactly serious about that bit)

 

[bamboo]

I was asking the poster Bamboo whether s/he believes that the international banking conspiracy was in their view connected with 'jews' - the words 'usury' 'rothschild' 'banks' in one post is usually taken as an indication of the posters having 'certain opinions' on 'jews'. I was trying to clarify the situation.

If you weren't such a self-pitying miserable bleeder you might have picked up on that.

This is a common misconception, there may be some jews involved but it ain't a jewish conspiracy. these people are above religion and law, so if they happen to be jewish its beside the point. In fact the large majority of the international banking elite are not jewish.

 

[Chuck Wilson]

One of the main faces (serious bloke, really nice lad as well) used to live down the back of me (in Somerset - which should let anyone connected know who i mean) - still into it all, but got no time for the wasters. Esp those that think they're firm. Know what/who i mean? Gandads at weddings.

You got kids Chuck?

Three thanks. Yourself?

 

[tbaldwin]

Do you think this represents reform towards the left though or simply modernising the strcture that already exists towards more corporate influence?

I think Blair has done more to reform House of Lords than any other PM.
Some of his reformism is good and some is well just plain shit.
And of course there is bound to be a stronger corporate influence when the left is so weak and irrelevant.

 

[bamboo]

I think Blair has done more to reform House of Lords than any other PM.
Some of his reformism is good and some is well just plain shit.
And of course there is bound to be a stronger corporate influence when the left is so weak and irrelevant.

The Lords reform was needed but I don't trust Blair to do it because he'll just fill it up with his cronies.