British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'

[Pickman's model]

Nah, the Bangladeshis are just playing hard to get for some kind of bribe. They’ll change their mind for a bit of silver.

I wouldn't be so sure

 

[gentlegreen]

"Of approximately 900 people who had gone to Syria from the UK, 20% were believed to have been killed and about 40% had returned to the UK, the home secretary said. “I assure this house the majority have been assessed to pose no or a low-security status,” "

I bet a fair number slipped through the net due to the massive under-staffing of border control and police.

 

[Pickman's model]

"Of approximately 900 people who had gone to Syria from the UK, 20% were believed to have been killed and about 40% had returned to the UK, the home secretary said. “I assure this house the majority have been assessed to pose no or a low-security status,” "

I bet a fair number slipped through the net due to the massive under-staffing of border control and police.

How often have we seen people who were assessed to pose little or no threat go on to kill a load of people?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Why do you keep saying that? It demonstrates a view of people considered to be of dual nationality who join ISIS. Not specifically Bangladeshis.

Why do you keep trying to downplay it? This is crude dogwhistle politics javid is playing here. You seem not to recognise it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Why do you keep trying to downplay it? This is crude dogwhistle politics javid is playing here. You seem not to recognise it.

He doesn't give a shit. It doesn't affect him. He is firmly cushioned by his class and his resources, just like Javid

 

[Spymaster]

He doesn't give a shit. It doesn't affect him. He is firmly cushioned by his class and his resources, just like Javid

Oh, you're back!

Any chance you can say something different next time?

 

[Spymaster]

Why do you keep trying to downplay it?

Because it's simply not true.

Unless of course you're suggesting that all British Bangladeshis should fear this because they're all involved with IS.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Oh, you're back!

Any chance you can say something different next time?

Nope. I'll keep speaking the truth thanks.

 

[Spymaster]

Nope. I'll keep speaking the truth thanks.

Race Card Rita, truth warrior! At least accuse me of something else for a bit of variety.

 

[maomao]

Bangladesh are denying she's a Bangladeshi citizen:

Shamima Begum will not be allowed here, says Bangladesh

The government of Bangladesh is deeply concerned that [Begum] has been erroneously identified as a holder of dual citizenship,” Shahrial Alam, state minister of foreign affairs, said in a statement issued to the Guardian, adding that his government had learned of Britain’s intention to cancel her citizenship rights from media reports.

And honestly, if she was Irish or a New Zealander there would have been a chat with the embassy. This is just 'fuck off you're not really British'.

 

[Theisticle]

In normal times, such an overt act of racist gerrymandering would lead to resignations.

Javid will only benefit. The Tories have hit another moral low.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Race Card Rita, truth warrior! At least accuse me of something else for a bit of variety.

Nice dog whistle response you nasty cunt. Proving my point entirely.

 

[tonysingh]

In normal times, such an overt act of racist gerrymandering would lead to resignations.

Javid will only benefit. The Tories have hit another moral low.

They'd need to have morals in the first place.

 

[Spymaster]

Nice dog whistle response you nasty cunt.

So you get to come on here accusing me of all sorts, but when I respond with a basic truth, I'm the nasty cunt?

Yeah, ok!

 

[Spymaster]

Bangladesh are denying she's a Bangladeshi citizen:

Shamima Begum will not be allowed here, says Bangladesh.

An immigration solicitor on C4 news just now said that anyone with Bangladeshi parents is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen without having to apply, but that citizenship lapses if they don't claim it formally by the age of 21. So someone's wrong.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Does anyone know more about what happened to 'Jihadi Jack' Letts? Was his British citizenship revoked or not? The home office were playing their cards really close to their chests which is odd given they seem to have a really tough line on this in other cases.

Suspected British Isis fighter could face repatriation to Canada

 

[maomao]

An immigration solicitor on C4 news just now said that anyone with Bangladeshi parents is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen without having to apply, but that citizenship lapses if they don't claim it formally by the age of 21. So someone's wrong.

A practicioner of Bangladeshi law? Or a UK lawyer who'd looked it up on Wikipedia like Sajid Javid did?

 

[Spymaster]

Does anyone know more about what happened to 'Jihadi Jack' Letts? Was his British citizenship revoked or not?

Not. According to this.

 

[Spymaster]

A practicioner of Bangladeshi law? Or a UK lawyer who'd looked it up on Wikipedia like Sajid Javid did?

No idea. He had a muslim name and the banner called him an "immigration and human rights lawyer".

 

[Treacle Toes]

Quelle fucking surprise.

...and John Humpreys didn't destroy that lawyers argument at all...he tried by saying 'some immigrants are White' but hadn't figured for the differential treatment of Jihadi Jack and couldn't give one example of this tactic being used where the person is White.

The other guy on the panel danced around the point and conceded it was unlikely that it would be and then tried to sugarcoat it by saying he was concerned about the '2 tier system'.

That you use that article as evidence is pretty fucking ironic all told given that it's headline is an outright lie and if you had actually heard the exchange/interview you would know that.

 

[Spymaster]

A practicioner of Bangladeshi law? Or a UK lawyer who'd looked it up on Wikipedia like Sajid Javid did?

It was this guy.

 

[Spymaster]

That you use that article as evidence is pretty fucking ironic all told given that it's headline is an outright lie and if you had actually heard the exchange/interview you would know that.

Calm down. I did a google news search for "Jack Letts" and linked the first result.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Calm down. I did a google news search for "Jack Letts" and linked the first result.

Race card Rita.
Calm down.

Fuck off.

 

[Edie]

Watching the videos of her she just doesn’t have a clue. Sounds odd in the circumstances but she comes across as completely naive.

 

[Athos]

A practicioner of Bangladeshi law? Or a UK lawyer who'd looked it up on Wikipedia like Sajid Javid did?

In fairness, there's no reason for us to trust a Bangladeshi politician any more than Javid. And, on the face of the act I mentioned earlier, it appears that she is a Bangladeshi citizen.

 

[Spymaster]

Fuck off.

Perhaps I should fuck off and falsely accuse another poster of pretending to be black and posting fake pictures of themselves?

 

[Athos]

Does anyone know more about what happened to 'Jihadi Jack' Letts? Was his British citizenship revoked or not? The home office were playing their cards really close to their chests which is odd given they seem to have a really tough line on this in other cases.

Suspected British Isis fighter could face repatriation to Canada

As far as I can tell, he's not been stripped of his citizenship, which, prima facie, does suggest a difference in how this law is applied, based on race.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Perhaps I should fuck off and falsely accuse another poster of pretending to be black and posting fake pictures of themselves?

Oh...on the ropes and attempting to come out for a sucker punch eh?

According to people I trust who have meet her including a Black woman, that picture looks fuck all like her just like I suspected for the reasons I did. But you continue lying for mates, allowing others to make paki and nignog jokes about you on these boards, pretending that the racism you clearly don't understand is in everyone else's head.

I'm alright Javid indeed. Off you fuck.

 

[Spymaster]

As far as I can tell, he's not been stripped of his citizenship, which, prima facie, does suggest a difference in how this law is applied, based on race.

That one case would appear to do so but we'd need to get a look at the other 150 dual nationality men and women who've lost their UK rights to draw any firm conclusions.

 

[maomao]

No idea. He had a muslim name and the banner called him an "immigration and human rights lawyer".

And how quick and fair do you think a country undergoing huge refugee and environmental crises, where torture and disappearances are common, that barely even qualifies as a democracy is at resolving human rights disputes?

Surely given that she hasn't taken up her right to citizenship all they'd have to do is put out a law in the morning changing the age to 18 or just saying matters off national security trump the right to take up citizenship for those born abroad and any potential application is fucked anyway.