British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'

[Spymaster]

Oh...on the ropes and attempting to come out for a sucker punch eh?

Nah, just annoying you.

According to people I trust who have meet her including a Black woman, that picture looks fuck all like her just like I said.

Either you're lying or they are. Probably the former.

But you continue lying for mates ...

Never happened.

Keep trying.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Nah, just annoying you.

Either you're lying or they are. Probably the former.

Never happened.

Keep trying.

I don't need to try, it's all true and you know it.

You just don't have an off button with this tedious shit.

 

[Spymaster]

... it's all true and you know it.

Fraid not. Quite a few people know how much of a dick you made of yourself playing Race card Rita on that thread.

As I said, keep trying.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Fraid not. Quite a few people know how much of a dick you made of yourself playing Race card Rita on that thread.

As I said, keep trying.

It may have looked that way based on your lying yes. ..and then other people met her.

You are a pretty fucking shit friend as well bringing this up in an attempt to get one over on me today. If you hadn't I would not have mentioned any of this stuff, not least because she hasn't posted in a fair while. She was keen for it to go away as I remember the last time it surfaced.

I don't need to try. You've clearly always been a cunt, hence your actual nickname.

 

[xenon]

She seems be being interviewed on a daily basis by all press outfits giving immediate response to everything that is happening. Its a really weird and fucked situation. She's also sounding increasingly coached in some of the language she uses, whether that is by the press I don't know. Didn't she give birth a day or so ago? The press are making a fucked situation way more fucked, leave her be with her child.

I reckon the lawyer her family have hired has been getting advice to her via them and the press. Very different tone today.

 

[Athos]

Fraid not. Quite a few people know how much of a dick you made of yourself playing Race card Rita on that thread.

As I said, keep trying.

I think she was completely out of order in that incident and in some of her conduct towards you in this thread, but, as much as have no time for Rutita1, is hard to argue that there's not a prima facie case of racism based on the differing treatment of Letts and Begum. Let's try to keep to that issue eh?

 

[Spymaster]

It may have looked that way based on your lying yes. ..and then other people met her.

Keep digging. You, they, or both, are the liars.

You've clearly always been a cunt ...

That's the first thing you've posted on this thread that isn't total bollocks!

 

[Treacle Toes]

Keep digging. You, they, or both, are the liars.

I, they, we are not.

That's the first thing you've posted on this thread that isn't total bollocks!

It's not the first thing at all. But cunt on.

 

[Spymaster]

... hard to argue that there's not a prima facie case of racism based on the differing treatment of Letts and Begum. Let's try to keep to that issue eh?

As I said in #1887, I agree.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Because it's simply not true.

Unless of course you're suggesting that all British Bangladeshis should fear this because they're all involved with IS.

Others have tried to explain this but just to be clear - this can be applied to people who have not been involved with Daesh at all. This could even be applied to people who join up with the YPG to fight Daesh.

 

[xenon]

Did she say it's OK to behead people? I thought she said she wasn't phased by seeing heads in bins or such like.
Not forgetting she was groomed (brainwashed) at a young, influential age.

People keep saying this but it doesn't make it true. 15 YO's are impressionable. It doesn't follow that any iborrent views they develop are the result of brain washing, grooming. People aren't programable like that outside some extreme circumstances. If you know how her coming to join Daesh came to pass, the extent to which she was groomed or not, then please tell us otherwise it's just empty speculation.

 

[Athos]

I, they, them are not.

It's not the first thing at all. But cunt on.

Come on, this is a really interesting thread - let's not detail this with ancient and irrelevant beef, for all our sakes.

 

[Treacle Toes]

As I said in #1887, I agree.

No you didn't. You continued with the dog whistle accusing me of playing the fucking race card and bringing up old shit because you don't have the fucking gumption to admit you have been kicking back all day about something that is fucking true.

You didn't even want to entertain it because it doesn't affect you.

 

[SpackleFrog]

People aren't programable like that outside some extreme circumstances.

Isn't that just empty speculation?

How do you know there weren't extreme circumstances?

 

[Spymaster]

I, they, we are not.

The fact that you won't just admit that you got it spectacularly wrong and even now try to bullshit your way out of it speaks volumes.

 

[Pickman's model]

Isn't that just empty speculation?

How do you know there weren't extreme circumstances?

Speculation's our meat and drink and we love nothing more than empty speculation

 

[Spymaster]

No you didn't. You continued with the dog whistle accusing me of playing the fucking race card and bringing up old shit because you don't have the fucking gumption to admit you have been kicking back all day about something that is fucking true.

You didn't even want to entertain it because it doesn't affect you.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to the part of Athos' post that I actually responded to.

You're rage is clouding your judgement now!

 

[Athos]

The fact that you won't just admit that you got it spectacularly wrong and even now try to bullshit your way out of it speaks volumes.

True enough. But let's not detail this thread with that stuff, eh?

 

[Treacle Toes]

The fact that you won't just admit that you got it spectacularly wrong and even now try to bullshit your way out of it speaks volumes.

You lied. That was confirmed by others. That speaks volumes. The way you have dug your heels in on this thread speaks volumes. Your lack of understanding about the dynamics of racism and the way you attack me for having a greater awareness of it speaks volumes.

 

[Spymaster]

You lied. That was confirmed by others.

It can't have been because it's simply not true.

Keep trying though. If you say it enough you may convince someone else.

 

[RubyBlue]

Watching the videos of her she just doesn’t have a clue. Sounds odd in the circumstances but she comes across as completely naive.

Yeah, surprisingly I feel some sympathy although I’m someone she’d be happy to see thrown off a roof. I started thinking let her rot but now think she’s naive and child like ~ original reports when the girls left the UK where that they were intelligent and studying to be in areas like medicine ~ well this one isn’t! Looking at her reading the HO letter I feel awful for her but I know I shouldn’t.

She’s been used and exploited by the press ~ I don’t care about her but she is British and let her make her own way to a consulate ~ she is not a Bangladeshi.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Perhaps you should pay more attention to the part of Athos' post that I actually responded to.

You're rage is clouding your judgement now!

I am perfectly calm. Bushed but ready for bed. Spent the day doing a job I love that actually is meaningful and worthwhile other than sat here like you defending this fuckery. You clearly need to concentrate on that which clouds your own judgement.

 

[Spymaster]

I am perfectly calm.

Yes, you seem so!

 

[xenon]

Isn't that just empty speculation?

How do you know there weren't extreme circumstances?

I don't. But you don't need extreme circs for people to join cults and a like. People talking about grooming are making an unhelpful presumption and it's a drastic simplification of what drives some people down certain routes.

 

[xenon]

Isn't that just empty speculation?

How do you know there weren't extreme circumstances?

I can't find the posts off hand but Red Cat made this point far more eloquently earlier in the thread.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Yeah, surprisingly I feel some sympathy although I’m someone she’d be happy to see thrown off a roof. I started thinking let her rot but now think she’s naive and child like ~ original reports when the girls left the UK where that they were intelligent and studying to be in areas like medicine ~ well this one isn’t! Looking at her reading the HO letter I feel awful for her but I know I shouldn’t.

She’s been used and exploited by the press ~ I don’t care about her but she is British and let her make her own way to a consulate ~ she is not a Bangladeshi.

I've been struggling with this all week to be fair. What keeps ringing in my ears, is the comment 'I'm not the same naive/stupid 15 year old I was'...all the while saying and repeating all the awful and utterly naive and off key shit. 19 may be an adult but it's no age and I also think the media is taking advantage at this stage.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Watching the videos of her she just doesn’t have a clue. Sounds odd in the circumstances but she comes across as completely naive.

I think there are elements of this that can never make sense. We watch her and how can a 19 year old be saying those things, have done what she has, believe what she did/does?

 

[Athos]

I've been struggling with this all week to be fair. What keeps ringing in my ears, is the comment 'I'm not the same naive/stupid 15 year old I was'...all the while saying and repeating all the awful and utterly naive and off key shit. 19 may be an adult but it's no age and I also think the media is taking advantage at this stage.

Her complete lack of self-awareness is the gift that keeps on giving, to the tabloids.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I've been struggling with this all week to be fair. What keeps ringing in my ears, is the comment 'I'm not the same naive/stupid 15 year old I was'...all the while saying and repeating all the awful and utterly naive and off key shit. 19 may be an adult but it's no age and I also think the media is taking advantage at this stage.

Aye, lets not forget journalists are racking up thousands of pounds travelling to a refugee camp and interviewing her purely for clickbait and rage shares.

They don't even have the decency to run reports of conditions in the camps or interview anyone else while they're there.

 

[Edie]

I've been struggling with this all week to be fair. What keeps ringing in my ears, is the comment 'I'm not the same naive/stupid 15 year old I was'...all the while saying and repeating all the awful and utterly naive and off key shit. 19 may be an adult but it's no age and I also think the media is taking advantage at this stage.

Oh yeah whatever else is going on the media are joyfully screwing her.