British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'
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Athos
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Arusha because the Home Sec couldn't prove citizenship was obtained fraudulently (which was the grounds for depriving him of it), and Hamza because Egypt best the UK to the punch.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
"Aye, fucking cheers for that pal" in diplo-speak.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yeah I know. My mate's kid will have to decide at 18 whether or not to be Japanese - till then she can be both. But even if you don't have to revoke, my understanding is that 18 is generally the age at which you make the decision yourself. Certainly not 15.
Unluckily for her, Bangladesh does appear to allow dual citizenship 'by blood' throughout life.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
(((((Bangladesh)))))
Athos
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She could have revoked it before now. She's an adult with dual citizenship (well, until earlier today).
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
She's most unlkely to get Dutch citizenship, her husband would have to return home and apply for permission to bring her there as his spouse, The Dutch authorities then consider her application, much the same as it would be bringing a foreign spouse into this country, is she of good character? is it a genuine marriage and so forth. If so she can come and then they would then have to live as husband and wife and good upstanding citizens for 5 years. Fine if he was some guy who went to work abroad, met the love of his life and wants to bring her home with him.
He went out there to fight for ISIS and unlike her will have actual blood on his hands. The instance he's back in the Netherlands he presumably gets arrested, tried and banged up for a long time.
Not a good start to convincing a tribunal to let his wife into the country, she probably won't make a great impression on them either.
It's probable that one of the two things would apply re the kid, her parents lawyer up and arrange for their grandchild to come here as a British citizen sans his mother. Or the Dad's parents can get him into
the Netherlands, Dutch immigration law says the kid is automatically Dutch if the parents are married and the father can register the child up to 7 years after birth if not married.
No idea if the Dutch authorities view ISIS arranged marriages as legal or not (not would be my guess but don't know), I would imagine that him registering the birth would involve the Dutch authorities getting their hands on him.
I know naff all about about Bangladeshi citizenship (neither I suspect does Javid) but since she apparently has never been there and doesn't have a passport then I suspect she has it via grandfathered rights and may not have even known she had it. (if Bangladesh operates the same rules as the UK then the baby will not be a Bangladeshi citizen) Not great odds that Bangladesh would be willing to let her in either.
Unless her parents can win an appeal then she will probably die in the refugee camp.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes, that is true. I was banking on her leaving age rather than current age. On the face of it, it doesn't look good. Sure there will be Bangladeshi lawyers poring over their legislation looking for a loophole, though.
Athos
Well-Known Member
She can go to a safe country, and the UK doesn't have to have her. I don't think that's too bad, actually.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think what’s most likely, given Javid and the muppets behind this, is that he gets slapped down in a most
embarrassing fashion.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Probably something along the lines of "You Bastard we were going to do that first"
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Is it possible they hadn't even realised before today? I would think so. She'll be on record somewhere, but if nobody looks...
8ball
Decolonise colons!
You reckon this is kosher, or Javid is just taking a punt?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Dunno. My gut says the latter, but who knows. Such a move isn't going to do wonders for UK–Bangladesh relations given that she is so obviously British. I guess he doesn't care about that. Not my department... Just remembered who is Foreign Secretary. Fuck me what a shower.
If she has citizenship of another country, looks like Bangladesh in this case, the law says she can be stripped of British citizenship.
Looking at her comments about the Manchester murders, I'm finding it hard to argue against this ruling.
I'm into giving people a chance, but it's looking a lot like she's had one and blown it.
Looking at her comments about the Manchester murders, I'm finding it hard to argue against this ruling.
I'm into giving people a chance, but it's looking a lot like she's had one and blown it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The UK beat Bangladesh to it by the looks of it.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
If she has it via grandfathered rights then one (or both) of her parents came from Bangladesh and settled in this country and she inherited it from them, They may very well have not even registered her
birth with the Bangaldeshi Embassy. Just because she wasn't registered doesn't prevent her from being a citizen.
Javid is definitely playing to the crowd here, underserving of sympathy though this girl may be, Javid is being a gold medal standard twat.
birth with the Bangaldeshi Embassy. Just because she wasn't registered doesn't prevent her from being a citizen.
Javid is definitely playing to the crowd here, underserving of sympathy though this girl may be, Javid is being a gold medal standard twat.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Click on the tweet I posted. It basically says that the Bangladeshi diaspora have a "right of return", and that this not the same thing as citizenship.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This is very concerning. Aping the US. Very very bad law, slipped through last week.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
She has dual citizenship and the UK managed to dump her UK one first but mostly the problem is that Javid is a twat.
Theisticle
Well-Known Member
One of the most vulgar and nakedly racist leadership pitches from a Home Secretary since...well, Theresa May.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. Like it or not, she's our problem. She's never even been there. And if Idris is right that neither she nor her parents even actively sought Bangladeshi citizenship for her, then this is really just plain racism. I know it's a person of Pakistani origin doing it, but Javid hides behind his ethnicity to do horrible racist things.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Any idea what instrument introduced the law? Everything is so Brexit-fixated there's danger of other stuff not being picked up.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No. It's the first I've heard of it. Slipped the fucking thing through, no doubt with a minimum of scrutiny.
You think Javid is racist? He’s just a careerist surely.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
His actions are racist. His policies are racist. That's what matters. And yes, he's blatantly angling to be the next PM. And is very willing to do racist things to get there.
Treacle Toes
Time
FIFU...he's another cunt that thinks he has arrived.
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