Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
She had dual UK/Bangladeshi citizenship apparently
British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'
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She had dual UK/Bangladeshi citizenship apparently
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Samantha Lewthwaite.
Sajid Javid is such a nasty piece of work. What a vile tory shitcunt.
I hope the baby retains full rights, given that he was born to a (then) British citizen.
Just when you think you couldn't hate the Tories more. Fucking depressing
I hope the baby retains full rights, given that he was born to a (then) British citizen.
Just when you think you couldn't hate the Tories more. Fucking depressing
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
maomao
普費斯
I'd forgotten her. Almost a perfect parallel. Any wide spread campaign to have her citizenship revoked?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
She wasn't asking to come back, it was a while ago, and she got killed first.
I do agree for some people there's a probably an element of 'was never British in the first place' but I've not heard or seen that expressed anywhere and I'm not going looking for it in the sewers of the internet.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Very convenient for them if true. I wonder if she's even ever been to Bangladesh. She's far more British than Bangladeshi.
Either way, revocation of citizenship in this way is basically using a technicality. So what, she gets deported to Bangladesh now, or what?
ETA: Also, the fact that she was only 15 when she left becomes very significant now. Often kids are given dual nationality as a decision made by their parents, and then choose whether or not to keep it when they reach 18. So even if she has dual nationality, this stinks.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Wasn't that the other one, the woman from Chatham?
maomao
普費斯
I've been listening to it all fucking day.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Her husband is Dutch, her kid can therefore be Dutch, in time it is possible she could get Dutch citizenship and move to the UK if some kind of free movement exists after Brexit. Which will garner some lols from me, at least.
Treacle Toes
Time
TBF she isn't all over the news asking to come back to Britain. FWIW I do though, think she'd get more 'consideration'.
Thinking about Shamina Begum though...her having dual citizenship has been a touch for the authorities I think. This decision would have been much harder to make if she was solely a Brit.
I'm glad it isn't me having to make these decisions tbh.
Athos
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So is it too late for Bangladesh to revoke their citizenship, then? Britain got first dibs? If a person is living in the other country of their citizenship, I would understand the practice of revoking the British one, but not in these circumstances.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
You'd hope so. Bangladeshi citizenship is jus sanguis, so the baby hasn't been made stateless, no matter what happens in the UK courts. But this'll go all the way to the Supreme Court I suspect.
Treacle Toes
Time
If Britain can revoke why can't Bangladesh? She wasn't/isn't living there either.
Have to agree. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a legal challenge. Sagid powerstanse Javid still gets to look hard.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Quite possibly they could have done (though i suspect they couldn't, now - making her stateless would contravene international law). I think as similar thing happened with Abu Hamza, when Egypt(?) revoked before the UK did.
ETA: On closer examination, it looks like Bangladesh canonly revoke citizenship conferred by naturalisation, whereas her's would be by jus sanguinis i.e. her parents' blood.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
You can't move the goalposts because "LOL Bangladesh!". We manage to tolerate (ok, and imprison) plenty of odious people already. Accommodating one more is a sign of civilisation isn't it? Let her back, put her on trial.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So it's first dibs. Whoever gets in there first is the one that can revoke. Tough shit on the other one? How marvellous international law is.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Effectively, yes.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
On what grounds though? If she genuinely is dual then the thing is surely watertight. The home sec simply has these powers if this is the case. If they should have them is a diff question.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The grounds that she was 15 when she left, perhaps. From what I know about dual nationality, it's something kids normally decide for themselves on at 18.
Athos
Well-Known Member
I despise Javid, but I don't get a lot this outrage; she's not being made stateless, and so has a legal right to go to live in a safe country of which she is a citizen. An immeasurably better fate than that which her brutal group imposed on many far more innocent than her.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I think this line is a non-starter, not least cos it’s blates that she would have chosen to keep the nationality of an Islamic country, were she given the choice.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Possibly on the grounds of Article 8 of the ECHR - the right to family life. Though I'm doubtful she'd succeed.
I doubt that'd make much difference.
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
I think it depends. Some states don't allow dual nationality, others make you choose at 18, others are happy to allow you to keep dual nationality for life.
Didn’t know she had dual til about 2 mins ago.
Wonderr what if anything happens now.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
None of the other 100 or so cases have managed to get one overturned.
Athos
Well-Known Member
The link you posted yesterday included two* who have: Altin Arusha and Abu Hamza.
* ETA: At the time of the article, they may have been the only two, though thay may have been more since.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can you remember on what grounds?
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