BNP to march from Woolwich to Lewisham Sat 1st June
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LOl at the youtube punk to go with the youtube hooligans. Griffin the brave was looking so tubby due to his heavyweight bulletproof vest btw.
That fuckwit missed the whole fucking point of everything.
Tricky Skills
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A few more pics from yesterday. Pretty pathetic turn our from the BNP. They all looked so... miserable.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
an infidel
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
pretty weird for a "socialist" group not to talk about class but to go on about religious identities as well (and "gentiles" wtf, nobody says that, let alone define themselves as that - except people who'd be more suited to joining the bnp than "smashing the nazi edl")
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
They're everso wary about creeping feminism but remarkably open to any other form of identity politics.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
fighting fascism is not only about it's effects on "muslims and jews" its about class, UAF are entirely missing the point about both the political way to fight fascism (which is about NOT making it just about minorities but poinitng out it's dangers to everyone) and it's entire history which was to both divert workers' struggles and then completely smash and destroy the organised working class and it's political representation through physical force, that is how they were able to do all the other stuff they did. and actually in some strands of political islamism they try to destroy the workers movements as well, im thinking of the Muslim brotherhood etc.
and asking people to support them on the basis of religion is just pathetic, and surely all the other religions should be included as well, hindus, buddhists, sikhs etc
seriously if someone said that because i'm a jew i should support their group or something i'd just be immediately suspicious, it's so patronising. it assumes you dont have any other interests apart from religion, that nothing else effects your (or your family/friends) life, work, housing, healthcare that sort of stuff.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yeah its a bit much to be championing identity politics in this ham-fisted way when you've just been spending half the year railing against "creeping feminists" and "autonomists" ffs
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Apparently Green and Black were tweeting last night that the arrestees have been bound over to keep the peace (or whatever the technical term is) until the end of July, which neatly takes it past the G8. I dunno if/why the OB anticipated that some of the said arrestees would be arsed to go to NI but it looks as though they've seized the opportunity for some nifty pre-arresting just in case.
E2A: some police spokesman on the Andrew Marr show just now, giving it large about people's right to protest and how OB will be policing it etc etc.
E2A: some police spokesman on the Andrew Marr show just now, giving it large about people's right to protest and how OB will be policing it etc etc.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
That's the national flag but the flag of St David is what chilango said.I thought wales was the dragon?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
i wonder if Green and Black have a fully worked position on palestine. I dont think I can endorse them if they dont.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I thought wales was the dragon?
Over the last few years there seems to have been, particularly but not exclusively, amongst nationalist types, a move towards using other flags as well as the red dragon. The st. David's cross is the most common. You also see the flag of glyndwr (a red and yellow quartered thing with heraldry on it) around quite a bit now. Plus loons like trampie using made up flags like the "welsh tricolour" the "white eagle" and so on.
I guess the dragon just got a bit too ubiquitous.
andysays
Love and solidarity
So what's the red diagonal cross on a white background? I thought that was St David.
(not that I'm that fussed about flags, just vaguely curious)
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Saint Patrick's Saltire (I think, I'm not really up on this stuff either).
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I think they cover themselves either way by just handing out bust cards to whoever happens to be protesting, if they get confused.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Yeah, you're right. I always assumed that the red diagonal bit in the Union Flag had some Welsh significance
Preparing to be flamed by Welsh nats now...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah, you're right. I always assumed that the red diagonal bit in the Union Flag had some Welsh significance
Preparing to be flamed by Welsh nats now...
I thought it was something to do with Northern Ireland to be fair! (the red diagonal bit)
andysays
Love and solidarity
I thought it was something to do with Northern Ireland to be fair! (the red diagonal bit)
Looks like you were right, or at least righter than me
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Yeah, you're right. I always assumed that the red diagonal bit in the Union Flag had some Welsh significance
Preparing to be flamed by Welsh nats now...
Heh.
Union flag doesn't have anything of Wales in it.
It symbolises the union between Ireland, Scotland and Englandandwales.
Fucking flags.
Good story: at some demo in the US lefties or anarchos were burning the Stars and Stripes as you do when some irate viewer got pissed off, as a gesture of good faith the protesters proceeded to enthusiastically burn their own red/black flags too.
Flags are stupid.
Flag poles can be handy though.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Nah, St George, St Andrew and St Patrick saltires. Wales doesn't get a look inYeah, you're right. I always assumed that the red diagonal bit in the Union Flag had some Welsh significance
Preparing to be flamed by Welsh nats now...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
which is ironic cos they've always tried to smash "regional" identities where they can as well
andysays
Love and solidarity
Second class citizens, innit
as can scaffolding poles, traffic bollards, anything you can get your hands on really
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