Are you going on the “Hate March”? (11/11/23) - Poll
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GarveyLives
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British Transport Police have now confirmed that three men have now been arrested in connection with a racially aggravated altercation which took place at London Waterloo Station at around 5.30 p.m. on Saturday 11 November 2023.
A 57-year old from Surbiton, south west London; a 61-year old from West Molesey, Surrey; and a 33-year old from Christchurch, Dorset have all been taken into custody.
AverageJoe
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Looks like he's had too much buttery biscuit base
Riklet
procrastinación
Personally im not comfortable with doxing people (even aggressive bellends or far right arseholes) and grassing them up to their work and the police. I can see why people do. But Im sure the police would find them anyway cant be that hard.
The coconut banner is distasteful and maybe a bit racist but seems like a massive over reaction police getting involved.
The coconut banner is distasteful and maybe a bit racist but seems like a massive over reaction police getting involved.
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
late to the party but this applies to so many
'ill informed uneducated right wing man tryna have an opinion on something he is uneducated about'
caption on the still from the video of a white woman saying this to a station employee at (Leeds?) station
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
They've clearly had a team trawling social media in search of people to arrest. This is the best they could come up with.
Lesson for us all. Be careful what you post. If in doubt, don't post it. The world will survive your not sharing it.
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Gramsci
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The coconut one I had a look at.
It's a joke. Woman holding it is from ethnic minority.
Coconut is slang for some who is black on outside and white inside. Someone who acts like white person. So it's saying Sunak and Braverman are acting like white people.
( As it happens the term slightly irritates me )
It's offensive but in context not racist.
It's a joke. Woman holding it is from ethnic minority.
Coconut is slang for some who is black on outside and white inside. Someone who acts like white person. So it's saying Sunak and Braverman are acting like white people.
( As it happens the term slightly irritates me )
It's offensive but in context not racist.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The police have described it as a racist slur. I'm not sure that's entirely correct. It's a racially charged slur, certainly. But if any particular race is being maligned here, it is white people. I doubt that is what the police are getting at.
As I said, if this is the best (worst) the police could come up with after hours and hours of scouring the internet, it only goes to show how absent from the rally obnoxious sentiments were.
As I said, if this is the best (worst) the police could come up with after hours and hours of scouring the internet, it only goes to show how absent from the rally obnoxious sentiments were.
Riklet
procrastinación
I heard a lot of Allahu Akbah-ing from the more militant Muslim participants in little blocks. And some chant connected to this in Arabic I didnt understand (no bunning the kufar ones though) I thought there would be more fuss about this from the usual suspects tbh... the police monitors were definitely recording a lot at points.
Then again probably neither racist or illegal. Just ive only ever been to lefty protests before tbh so it was my first time seeing people stopping to pray by the side of the march and chanting Islamic (but maybe not Islamist) stuff.
Then again probably neither racist or illegal. Just ive only ever been to lefty protests before tbh so it was my first time seeing people stopping to pray by the side of the march and chanting Islamic (but maybe not Islamist) stuff.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Especially with Ax^ fashion tips
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
That's another fashion crime imo .Wearing a football shirt over a hoodie should be legally confined to those under 9 years old
One of the men involved in the incident at Waterloo Station was wearing an Arsenal FC shirt with the number 41 on the back, over a grey hoodie top. That individual was filmed threatening and shouting obscenities at a group of people, including calling them "terrorist c****s".
That is probably why a family friend of landscape gardener James Thomas, the proprietor of J.T Landscaping Services of Christchurch, Dorset, has told reporters that James Thomas intends to report to the police today.
Racist or no, it’s a comment that is unlikely to come from a white person.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
my fashion tips jebus the fashion police should let the average Frey Perry enthusiast that the last thing they should be let out the door with is a slim fit polo shirt ...
PTK
Paul Kegan
and how do "white people" act?
I am White. Am I acting like a Black person when I speak up in favour of a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I've heard it being used but as a white person I wouldn't use it.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Yeah, been a lot of Arabic chanting at the ones I've been to, have sometimes tried to ask someone for a quick translation but obvs it's not always easy in a big noisy crowd... I think one of the really big common ones, at least where I've been, is about defending Al-Aqsa, found a video about it here:
(Disclaimer, have not actually watched the video yet so can't really endorse the contents, but it was the first resource that I turned up looking for an explanation of the Birruh Biddam Nafdiika ya Aqsa chant.)
story
Changing the facts
So apparently the chant “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free” is antisemitic because it questions the existence of the state of Israel.
Is it?
www.aljazeera.com
Is it?
‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?
Critics have called its use anti-Semitic amid Israel’s war on Gaza. But the slogan has more complex roots.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
hey i'm just remarking on why some people are calling it antisemitic not that it is
weird narratives have been pushed on what is and what is not antisemitic
its why we have a page like the below on the Anne Frank Museums website
Is all criticism of Israel antisemitic?
weird narratives have been pushed on what is and what is not antisemitic
its why we have a page like the below on the Anne Frank Museums website
Is all criticism of Israel antisemitic?
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
No. Killing people born in that region is anti semetic.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Yeah, it is at minimum I suppose an expression of wanting a one-state solution, I'm not going to say that it could never be antisemitic but there's nothing preventing it from people chanting it to express their genuine support for a democratic state from the river to the sea with equal rights for all citizens. I used to be less-than-enthusiastic about it on the grounds that if a slogan makes people uncomfortable then it's probably best avoided if possible, but given the amount of ridiculous nonsense chatted about it in recent weeks, I've now been pushed in the direction of being more positive/defensive about it.
More reading, if anyone fancies it:
forward.com
jewishcurrents.org
decolonizepalestine.com
More reading, if anyone fancies it:
Opinion | ‘From The River To The Sea’ Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means
A 2018 piece by a Palestinian on what the phrase, which features prominently in anti-Israel protests, means to the activists who use it
forward.com
What Does "From the River to the Sea" Really Mean?
The much-maligned slogan resists the fragmentation of Palestinian land and people by Israeli occupation and discrimination.
jewishcurrents.org
Myth: "From the river to the sea" is a call to genocide | Decolonize Palestine
It is often claimed that "From the river to the sea" is tantamount to a call for genocide. This false framing is typical in settler societies who see native liberation as their annihilation.
decolonizepalestine.com
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