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See it as a bit Paint your wagon. Now SBF and Zhao gone . California didn't die just coz Lee Marvin wandered off
 
But why are Blackrock and co buying it? Nobody seems to have had a crack at explaining why other than they can do it more easily with ETFs.
 
Blackrock and co are buying bitcoin because there is demand for their bitcoin ETFs, and legally they must hold the bitcoin backing it. As bitcoin is onchain, they cant obfusicate ownership, or deal in paper bitcoin, they must own the full fat version.

As to why there is demand for bitcoin ETFs, there is a whole cohort of boomers that see number go up and want some of that, but they dont really understand bitcoin, are afraid of scams and have no idea how to secure it. A bitcoin ETF gives them exposure to bitcoin, without the concerns of self-custody and with the backing of US regulation.

Essentially if you want access to the "number go up" property of bitcoin, but dont actually care about bitcoin, only dollars, you can now buy a blackrock ETF, without the inconvenience of having to learn about bitcoin and stay in the delusional fiat bubble.
 
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Actually, I think qwerty has nailed this one! It’s the new ETFs alright, which have kicked off a new cycle of FOMO combined this time with the need to back each speculative punt with an actual Bitcoin. And qwerty is probably right about it being the Boomers too, who were clueless about how to speculate before this.
 
It should be pointed out tho that those buying the bitcoin ETFs dont actually own any bitcoin. Those bitcoin are owned by the Blackrocks of the world and all they have is a promissory note. I give it 7 years to the scandal.
 
It should be pointed out tho that those buying the bitcoin ETFs dont actually own any bitcoin. Those bitcoin are owned by the Blackrocks of the world and all they have is a promissory note. I give it 7 years to the scandal.
Whatever next... Fractional reserve bitcoining?
For something that's trying ever so hard to distance itself from real money, it's starting to act a lot like real money, apart from the important bits that make real money work.
 
Whatever next... Fractional reserve bitcoining?
For something that's trying ever so hard to distance itself from real money, it's starting to act a lot like real money, apart from the important bits that make real money work.
Fractional reserve bitcoining was what FTX, Celcius and the others that collapsed in 2021 were doing. That game's gone now.

Bitcoin isnt money, but people treat it as if it were money....thats what leads to their downfall. For the ETFs, all but one have their btc held by Coinbase Vault. A federal seizure of Coinbase and that bitcoin is gone.
 
It's a defensive like precious metals which are also rising....reason given is expectation of FED cutting rates. which is odd cos those rate cuts are looking further away than they were
 
Every time a hardcore “not my wallet, not my bitcoin” type dies, there has to be a good chance that their bitcoin dies with them, right? Because if only they know their key, when they die, their wallet is inaccessible for ever. It’s not like other forms of asset that is accessed through an ID system. Some of these types might record the key somewhere that others can access it post-death, but that doesn’t sound a very crypto-obsessive thing to do for the main.
 
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This.

The FTX/Sam Bankman Fried case has been utterly eye opening in how it has been managed - not just the regulators mind, the politicians, the universities, the media. The scale of the corruption is off the wall and completely blatent, yet he is treated with kid gloves, given bail and nice write ups in all the broadsheets about how he did a woopsy.The tall tale of his "first billion" alleged to have come from the Kimshi trade is just nonsense....and oh, look - its all starting up again.

Meanwhile Alexy Pertsev is still in jail and Nicolai Mushegian is dead.

He got 25 years...

BBC News - Sam Bankman-Fried sentencing live: 'Crypto King' jailed for 25 years - BBC News

 
He didn't help himself, did he? Was nobody there to tell him to show an unqualified apology and remorse?

I only have so much sympathy for his victims, though. The guy who lost 1.7 million is also someone who hoped to come out on top in a pyramid scheme.
 
He didn't help himself, did he? Was nobody there to tell him to show an unqualified apology and remorse?

I only have so much sympathy for his victims, though. The guy who lost 1.7 million is also someone who hoped to come out on top in a pyramid scheme.
I have zero sympathy for him or the people he fleeced. It's almost as if investing in something that has no intrinsic value and isn't backed by anything is a bad idea... Who'd have thunk.
 
SBF would be so fucking rich right now if he had managed to ride things out in 2022, I think prosecutors might have saved the world from having another Elon Musk
 
This is glorious :D





I travelled around the world with this ape in my pocket. We went to the most luxurious hotels, the craziest night clubs and the most serene beaches. We had it all.


:D

I know it's a different Blur but it's easy to imagine Alex James being involved in this
 
I travelled around the world with this ape in my pocket. We went to the most luxurious hotels, the craziest night clubs and the most serene beaches. We had it all.

:D

I know it's a different Blur but it's easy to imagine Alex James being involved in this
I genuinely thought it was something to do with Damon Albarn and Gorillaz.
 
Adam Something examines the story of crypto bros' attempt to build an anarcho-capitalist paradise floating on the ocean:



TL;DW: idiots with more money than sense run headlong into the kind of problems that occur when one makes grand plans while having a childish understanding of the world and failing to do even a few minutes' Googling on laws relating to owning and operating a ship of such a size.
 
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