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Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action

Dave b. ( of red party and commune 'fame') has an interesting story about a mini confrontation with barnbrooke on his Facebook page

Though it contains too many real full names for me to be comfortable with cut n pasting it here
 
LiamO said:
In response to malatesta’s appeal for first-hand accounts I would like to offer the following. It is not about a violent street confrontation but about a meeting which precipitated and shaped later events. If you are gonna read it, you might wanna get yourself a cuppa first. Malatesta you can feel free to use it for your book or print it out and wipe your arse on it.

It is my recollection of one small little incident which, for me, captures the mood and atmosphere of the times and also had a fundamental ripple-out effect…

...

Until, that is… when Rupert turned round… looked at them with a look of pure “WTF” and said “What’s the matter with you people? What are you lot clapping for? I ain’t talking about THEM… I’m talking about YOU!”

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Now lifted (in part) for the Bulletin of the Kate Sharpley Library and therefore immortalised in the British Library (as well as read by eager thousands of course).
 
Kate Sharpley! we got a lot more of that from Liam! hilarious stories from the front line. and there is more out there too.
 
Joe Reilly said:
Just heard respected journalist James Lawton on Radio Five live explain the infamous riot that caused the Ireland England game to be abandoned was all down to C18. This was an outrageous, even by their standards, self-serving Searchlight invention to boost C18 (and because it was peneterated at the very top) Searchlight.

Interesting isn't it how blatant lies such as this, despite being utterly discredited at the time and since, (even Nick Lowles has admitted there was not a single C18 member identified, much less arrested, on the night) are still trotted out as 'fact' nearly twenty years later. Whatever else you might think, the durability is impressive.
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Well, according to a steward at the game he reported that some guy 'kept producing a C18 flag in spurts (not being draped, as others were doing with Union flags) and everything revolved around him' Lying was he?
 
audiotech said:
Well, according to a steward at the game he reported that some guy 'kept producing a C18 flag in spurts (not being draped, as others were doing with Union flags) and everything revolved around him' Lying was he?
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The week after the Dublin riot there were two middle-aged bonehead chancers showed up at a Millwall game (away to QPR in the FA Cup, iirc) wearing flight jackets and sky-blue berets (looked like a somewhat camp offshoot of the Guardian Angels). Joined in with a few chants, tried getting a 'No Surrender' going a couple of times to entirely dismal results and spent the rest of the time talking in stage whispers about how C18 had a result at Lansdowne Road and they'd been there.

After taking the piss failed to deter them, they eventually got a slap.

Had you been present to witness all this it would doubtless have been passed on as evidence of Millwall being a Fash stronghold. You arse.
 
past caring said:
The week after the Dublin riot there were two middle-aged bonehead chancers showed up at a Millwall game (away to QPR in the FA Cup, iirc) wearing flight jackets and sky-blue berets (looked like a somewhat camp offshoot of the Guardian Angels). Joined in with a few chants, tried getting a 'No Surrender' going a couple of times to entirely dismal results and spent the rest of the time talking in stage whispers about how C18 had a result at Lansdowne Road and they'd been there.

After taking the piss failed to deter them, they eventually got a slap.

Had you been present to witness all this it would doubtless have been passed on as evidence of Millwall being a Fash stronghold. You arse.
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Respect.
 
Just seen this on a mate's bookshelf. Is it any good then? Must be controversial if this thread is over 150 pages!
 
its good. sometimes get the impression that there are things being left unsaid in it but with good reason. Details that can't be gone into iyswim.

just on a prose style note theres some excellent usage of euphemism 'A frank exchange of views' etc
 
a chat with 'charlie poole' aka 'charlie' sargent:

M: hey charlie can i interview you online?
‘Charlie Poole’ NO YOU CANT YOu little spaka head i wont talk to red scum so dont meaage me any more you gay little mugs ok. its pointless trying to stop my gigs as well 14/88

M: not going great your life is it mate? im assuming that in all those wasted years spent in prison masturbating wondering where it all went wrong you didn't do the literacy classes. what a fucken loser.

‘Charlie Poole’what i done in my time there is my bisnuss and will not tell a red scums like you what i done there anyway. so whats the point i still have plenyty of reaspect of the white youth so dont go pushing your luck with me. and i am white and proud and no on can stop me being whaite and proud 311

M: what proud of killing one of your own comrades charlie? how are special branch doing these days? still chatting? you have no respect charlie. you are a 'race traitor' by your own definition. you are a grass, a murderer and a has been. where did it all go wrong? oh yeah, with stabbing someone to death. how about that interview? And what’s 3/11 complete knackered?

‘Charlie Poole’ 311 = Ku Klux Klan you compelte spaka head!!!!!!!! and yoiu cant call me that so dont i have never talked to specil branch or red skems do you belive every thing you read in the news paper. you are point less and discrace to the white race 311
 
malatesta32 said:
a chat with 'charlie poole' aka 'charlie' sargent:

M: hey charlie can i interview you online?
‘Charlie Poole’ NO YOU CANT YOu little spaka head i wont talk to red scum so dont meaage me any more you gay little mugs ok. its pointless trying to stop my gigs as well 14/88

M: not going great your life is it mate? im assuming that in all those wasted years spent in prison masturbating wondering where it all went wrong you didn't do the literacy classes. what a fucken loser.

‘Charlie Poole’what i done in my time there is my bisnuss and will not tell a red scums like you what i done there anyway. so whats the point i still have plenyty of reaspect of the white youth so dont go pushing your luck with me. and i am white and proud and no on can stop me being whaite and proud 311

M: what proud of killing one of your own comrades charlie? how are special branch doing these days? still chatting? you have no respect charlie. you are a 'race traitor' by your own definition. you are a grass, a murderer and a has been. where did it all go wrong? oh yeah, with stabbing someone to death. how about that interview? And what’s 3/11 complete knackered?

‘Charlie Poole’ 311 = Ku Klux Klan you compelte spaka head!!!!!!!! and yoiu cant call me that so dont i have never talked to specil branch or red skems do you belive every thing you read in the news paper. you are point less and discrace to the white race 311
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Up there with Lady Astor/Churchill and Oscar Wilde!
 
BTF is a very interesting read if you haven't got round to it, would thoroughly recommend it. It's quite a unique book really, mixing hard politics to tell a particular narrative and debunk a lot of myths, with Ealing comedy type stuff..."a right hook planted him in the geraniums" etc. The book is also unsparingly honest about failure which is a change.

I'd like to see a sequel some day examining the move away from the streets into the politics of the IWCA, and what did or didn't work there. Whilst BTF convincingly demonstrates that the BNP spent roughly a decade largely taking beatings from AFA. losing the argument almost totally on the streets, there is a book to be written probably starting with the Isle of Dogs by election and chronicling (why) the BNP were such a threat for a while electorally, and why the Last century Left / its successors have failed so abysmally in response.

I was pretty naive about anti-fascism when I joined these boards ten (!!!!) years ago, suffice it to say that i really got an education on it from many posters on here in that period, and BTF is pretty effectively a summary of everything learned in that time. Needless to say a complete revolution in my views and thinking on anti-fash stuff has lead to a pretty fundamental change in my thinking about politics generally.
 
malatesta32 said:
a chat with 'charlie poole' aka 'charlie' sargent:

M: hey charlie can i interview you online?
‘Charlie Poole’ NO YOU CANT YOu little spaka head i wont talk to red scum so dont meaage me any more you gay little mugs ok. its pointless trying to stop my gigs as well 14/88

M: not going great your life is it mate? im assuming that in all those wasted years spent in prison masturbating wondering where it all went wrong you didn't do the literacy classes. what a fucken loser.

‘Charlie Poole’what i done in my time there is my bisnuss and will not tell a red scums like you what i done there anyway. so whats the point i still have plenyty of reaspect of the white youth so dont go pushing your luck with me. and i am white and proud and no on can stop me being whaite and proud 311

M: what proud of killing one of your own comrades charlie? how are special branch doing these days? still chatting? you have no respect charlie. you are a 'race traitor' by your own definition. you are a grass, a murderer and a has been. where did it all go wrong? oh yeah, with stabbing someone to death. how about that interview? And what’s 3/11 complete knackered?

‘Charlie Poole’ 311 = Ku Klux Klan you compelte spaka head!!!!!!!! and yoiu cant call me that so dont i have never talked to specil branch or red skems do you belive every thing you read in the news paper. you are point less and discrace to the white race 311
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I imagine that you logged out of FB and haven't been back since, after such a thoroughly convincing intellectual demolition. Looks like you collapsed like one of Fred Dibnah's chimneys. :D
 
audiotech said:
Well, according to a steward at the game he reported that some guy 'kept producing a C18 flag in spurts (not being draped, as others were doing with Union flags) and everything revolved around him' Lying was he?
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As you gear yourself up for what appears to be yet another ill-judged crusade, pause for just a moment to consider why despite intense media scrutiny this individual that 'everything' supposedly 'revolved around' has never been found and is still unidentified nearly two decades later?

Now if that fails to provoke even the tiniest element of doubt, then, by all means, plough on...
 
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