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That letter seems to be saying you're on contributions based ESA now, but will change to income related in July 2014.

This suggests you've already declared savings / income etc to them.

Does that sound plausible?
Yup, I think so - cheers you and wtfftw. Fingers crossed for no fucking up..

I finally had my assessment this afternoon. A friend ended up coming with me, the whole thing was recorded, and I have no idea how it went.
He focused solely on the mh stuff - at the beginning he'd said there would be physical tests, but didn't get on to those -at the end, he said something like i'd be able to raise/discuss my other conditions in the future if necessary :confused: (I immediately interpreted that as 'you're going to have to appeal your assessment', my friend was less catastrophic and thought he was just explaining that they were just focussing on head stuff today).

So in a nutshell, I have no idea what will happen. I'm really glad it's over for now at least though. And that I took d with me; originally, my neighbour was going to come, and I was extra anxietying about discussing stuff in front of him.

Got home to find a message from my gp surgery to go in 'before the weekend' to talk about my blood tests from tues (i'm not meant to be going back for a fortnight), so this afternoon's stress reprieve was only a little one :facepalm:
 
Yup, I think so - cheers you and wtfftw. Fingers crossed for no fucking up..

I finally had my assessment this afternoon. A friend ended up coming with me, the whole thing was recorded, and I have no idea how it went.
He focused solely on the mh stuff - at the beginning he'd said there would be physical tests, but didn't get on to those -at the end, he said something like i'd be able to raise/discuss my other conditions in the future if necessary :confused: (I immediately interpreted that as 'you're going to have to appeal your assessment', my friend was less catastrophic and thought he was just explaining that they were just focussing on head stuff today).

So in a nutshell, I have no idea what will happen. I'm really glad it's over for now at least though. And that I took d with me; originally, my neighbour was going to come, and I was extra anxietying about discussing stuff in front of him.

Got home to find a message from my gp surgery to go in 'before the weekend' to talk about my blood tests from tues (i'm not meant to be going back for a fortnight), so this afternoon's stress reprieve was only a little one :facepalm:
Hope all was ok - could mean they've lost the sample (voice of bitter experience), could mean they want to retest whatever it is before any decision is made.
 
Ty - I hadn't thought of that.
Apparently they've booked me in for an appt tomorrow afternoon, so i'll find out what's going on then - fingers crossed it *is* just a lost/re-sample (I had to remind myself that it wasn't a 'we need to see you NOW before your internal organs explode and your feet fall off' message :oops: )

A night of switching off as much as poss, banishing the words 'appeal' and 'diabetes crisis' from my branes, and covering myself in kittens beckons.

(E2a: turns out I was called in to be told that my diabetes meds weren't and probably won't work for me - along with a 'not sure why this wasn't picked up by your last practise' comment. They've switched me over to a different one, and we'll see if I can get less sugary)
 
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I'm filling out a form on behalf of someone with ME and I can't work out what the hell to put for the 'how far can you walk' question. It's ridiculous, who the fuck measures how far they can walk every day? The work and benefits guide talks about framing in a way that relates to activities like shopping. Shall I put in 'I can walk 100 metres on a good day, 50 on a medium day and sod all on a bad day' or 'I can go to the shop near my home but only buy a small bag of items, I have to take breaks and when I get home again I have to rest before putting the items away.' What's more there's no room for nuance at all, like if I (I being my friend) have done something else before I walked somewhere, like cooking it will effect how far I can walk on that day, be it a good or medium one, on a bad day even getting out of bed is out of the question. Making people who are ill do this bullshit is bordering on barbarism. I'm not even unwell and it's doing my fucking head in!

'How long can you stand on your head, poke yourself in the eye and blow bubbles out your arse?' - 7 hours

Next!

Arrrgh! Fuck Off!!!!!! :mad:
On phone so too difficult to read what's been said, but if you go to a supermarket, they will assume you have no trouble walking. Doesn't occur to them someone else may be doing the shopping whilst you sit down and read your paper and have a cup of coffee in the cafe. There isn't an option for that in their little tick boxes!
 
On phone so too difficult to read what's been said, but if you go to a supermarket, they will assume you have no trouble walking. Doesn't occur to them someone else may be doing the shopping whilst you sit down and read your paper and have a cup of coffee in the cafe. There isn't an option for that in their little tick boxes!

Thanks for this, Minnie. I've finished the form and it's been sent off now and I did write about how she can't go shopping on her own etc. The form ended up being over 4000 words and it felt like writing a university essay!
 
OK I'm fucking furious now, these people need fucking stringing up :mad:.

My friend has just showed me a letter from the DWP saying they received her form after the deadline of the 12th and they've declared her fit for work! The original letter she received from them said the deadline was the 14th so she posted it by recorded delivery on the 12th. She has a copy of the original letter saying deadline was the 14th, she has a receipt saying she posted it on the 12th and Royal Mail tracking evidence saying the letter was delivered on the 14th in the morning. They're saying they received it on the 20th and have more or less told her to lump it and they've closed her case! I'm so fucking pissed off, I dunno what to do to help her :( can anyone please advise? Thanks.
 
As well as putting something in writing to the dwp (with copies of receipts/proof of delivery) I'd suggest speaking to the CAB or her local welfare rights team asap; sorry to hear she's having to deal with massive fuckuppery :(
 
<snip> My friend has just showed me a letter from the DWP saying they received her form after the deadline of the 12th and they've declared her fit for work! The original letter she received from them said the deadline was the 14th so she posted it by recorded delivery on the 12th. She has a copy of the original letter saying deadline was the 14th, she has a receipt saying she posted it on the 12th and Royal Mail tracking evidence saying the letter was delivered on the 14th in the morning. They're saying they received it on the 20th and have more or less told her to lump it and they've closed her case! I'm so fucking pissed off, I dunno what to do to help her :( can anyone please advise? Thanks.
What tufty79 said. First stop, CAB or similar, with the receipt, tracking evidence etc. Here's hoping this gets sorted out soon.
 
Thanks. The advice group has recommended emailing the DWP manager for her region with all the evidence and sending to her MP also. I'll her tell her to contact CAB too. Apparently it's because it got redirected which is why they're saying they didn't receive it on time. Didn't tell her about that in the letter eh? She's upheld her end and yet they treat her like this? :mad:, thanks for the replies.
 
Thanks. The advice group has recommended emailing the DWP manager for her region with all the evidence and sending to her MP also. I'll her tell her to contact CAB too. Apparently it's because it got redirected which is why they're saying they didn't receive it on time. Didn't tell her about that in the letter eh? She's upheld her end and yet they treat her like this? :mad:, thanks for the replies.
getting an MP invited always puts the wind up them.

maybe even contact the local PCS dept, they must have some influence.

and some responsibility.
 
I've gradually tapered off my voting over the years but now I've been involved in this I'm just not gonna bother to vote anymore. How can I vote for anyone the upholds this kind of shit? This is just barbaric making ill people do this. I suppose I'm a hypocrite for saying that as I'll be writing to an MP but then again they brought in this mess so they can deal with the clean up.
 
I've gradually tapered off my voting over the years but now I've been involved in this I'm just not gonna bother to vote anymore. How can I vote for anyone the upholds this kind of shit? This is just barbaric making ill people do this. I suppose I'm a hypocrite for saying that as I'll be writing to an MP but then again they brought in this mess so they can deal with the clean up.
Actually there is evidence that shows this was initially started under Labour. Admittedly, the Conservatives have made the process worse, but it's not only their fault.

Many MPs of all parties hate ATOS, so don't be afraid to use her local MP, after all, they work for US.
 
don't be afraid to use her local MP, after all, they work for US.

At least they are SUPPOSED to!
Don't not vote because of this. We need more people to vote for smaller parties and good parties to get the ball rolling. I always vote because I feel I should. Women died so I could and I feel it would be wrong not to, but we're all different :) A better selection of candidates would be good and I think PR has made a difference in Scotland, shame it's not national.
 
Who do we vote for? :confused:
If Labour and the Condems are both floating evermore to the right, then what party will actually stop punishing British people for being ill?

I've lost all faith in government.
 
Who do we vote for? :confused:
If Labour and the Condems are both floating evermore to the right, then what party will actually stop punishing British people for being ill?

I've lost all faith in government.
I tend to vote for the Greens or an independent candidate, more the person rather than party if you see what I mean. I won't be voting for my Labour MP because she didn't vote for the Early Day Motion that practically every single other Labour voted for about Atos.
 
Absolutely it's their fault. They've had years to fix things and they haven't.
The conservatives were never going to fix the system and if you think that you're naive. Labour should never have brought this is in the first place, they're the party that is supposed to be on the side of those that are vulnerable, the workers etc. Not the conservatives, who stand for the wealthy.
 
The conservatives were never going to fix the system and if you think that you're naive. Labour should never have brought this is in the first place, they're the party that is supposed to be on the side of those that are vulnerable, the workers etc. Not the conservatives, who stand for the wealthy.
this is very true.
 
Who do we vote for? :confused:
If Labour and the Condems are both floating evermore to the right, then what party will actually stop punishing British people for being ill?

I've lost all faith in government.

Socialists, Greens, Independents, I have no idea who stands south of the border I'm afraid.
 
That doesn't absolve them of blame, does it?
I never said it did. But given their well-established and well-known agenda against the poor, vulnerable and the working class, they weren't exactly going to go all-out to do anything helpful. If anything, they were going to make things worse, and they have.
 
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