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well done.

full support group is probably the only way to go with the possibility of the WRAG disappearing.

May I ask, if you know, how many points they awarded you in the end?
 
I won, backdated support group and for a further 12 months!!

Thank you for your support.
They asked a lot of questions, and took about 15 minutes to call me back in for their decision, but made it as easy as they could telling me I had won and then explaining their decision, which was that they granted it under rule 35, the exceptional circumstances rule, as I didn't fully meet any of the descriptors

Awesome Wells, I am not sure, but I think I don't have any more points, to be honest I haven't opened the document they gave me explaining their decision, its in a sealed envelope and I have started the evening by opening a bottle of wine.

They said they were giving it me for the backdated year and a further year as in the evidence from the CMHT, they had said they were hoping to be able to help me improve my mental health situation.

I have in the back of my head a bit of a concern that as I didn't meet the mobility descriptor fully (I had 9 points) that they may call me for review of DLA, which I have a lifetime award for now, but that is just a tiny niggle.
 
They asked a lot of questions, and took about 15 minutes to call me back in for their decision, but made it as easy as they could telling me I had won and then explaining their decision, which was that they granted it under rule 35, the exceptional circumstances rule, as I didn't fully meet any of the descriptors

Awesome Wells, I am not sure, but I think I don't have any more points, to be honest I haven't opened the document they gave me explaining their decision, its in a sealed envelope and I have started the evening by opening a bottle of wine.

They said they were giving it me for the backdated year and a further year as in the evidence from the CMHT, they had said they were hoping to be able to help me improve my mental health situation.

I have in the back of my head a bit of a concern that as I didn't meet the mobility descriptor fully (I had 9 points) that they may call me for review of DLA, which I have a lifetime award for now, but that is just a tiny niggle.

Interesting...people can get into the support group even without getting 15 points. My CAB advisor is convinced that without the points (ie support for enough descriptors) I don't stand a chance.

Well done at any rate. A victory for one is a victory for all.
 
Congrats Celt

I'm still having problems with mine despite winning.
DWP are still withholding >£1K due to a possible overpayment.:facepalm:
Still heard nothing about severe disability payments while I was on JSA.:facepalm:
I've just had another letter from A4E for a mandatory appointment about getting me back to work. They were shown a letter last time I went in to say I was in the support group. :mad:
Maybe I need to send them a letter threatening legal action for harassment and fraud if they carry on.:rolleyes:
 
They asked a lot of questions, and took about 15 minutes to call me back in for their decision, but made it as easy as they could telling me I had won and then explaining their decision, which was that they granted it under rule 35, the exceptional circumstances rule, as I didn't fully meet any of the descriptors

Awesome Wells, I am not sure, but I think I don't have any more points, to be honest I haven't opened the document they gave me explaining their decision, its in a sealed envelope and I have started the evening by opening a bottle of wine.

They said they were giving it me for the backdated year and a further year as in the evidence from the CMHT, they had said they were hoping to be able to help me improve my mental health situation.

I have in the back of my head a bit of a concern that as I didn't meet the mobility descriptor fully (I had 9 points) that they may call me for review of DLA, which I have a lifetime award for now, but that is just a tiny niggle.

The criteria under which you were awarded your DLA mobility component, read against the descriptors on the ESA form, shouldn't compromise your DLA. To get 9 pts you need to (taken from "Benefits & Work"s guide:

(b) Cannot mount or descend two steps unaided by another person even with the support of
a handrail. 9 points
(c) Cannot either
(i) mobilise more than 100 meters on level ground without stopping in order to avoid
significant discomfort or exhaustion
or
(ii) repeatedly mobilise 100 meters within a reasonable timescale because of significant
discomfort or exhaustion. 9 points

which, given you don't fall under the new 20 metres criteria, is good enough, as DLA is/was judged on repeatability, not on the spurious crap that ESA is based on.
 
Congrats Celt

I'm still having problems with mine despite winning.
DWP are still withholding >£1K due to a possible overpayment.:facepalm:
Still heard nothing about severe disability payments while I was on JSA.:facepalm:
I've just had another letter from A4E for a mandatory appointment about getting me back to work. They were shown a letter last time I went in to say I was in the support group. :mad:
Maybe I need to send them a letter threatening legal action for harassment and fraud if they carry on.:rolleyes:
Sorry to hear that WouldBe - can your solicitor write to the A4e office and ask them to leave you alone?
 
Interesting...people can get into the support group even without getting 15 points. My CAB advisor is convinced that without the points (ie support for enough descriptors) I don't stand a chance.

Well done at any rate. A victory for one is a victory for all.

I am going to write to the various agencies who told me I had no grounds or that I was out of time, etc, there is a list of them,

but no it isn't true, but I think the rule 35(?) exceptional circumstances is there for those of us who don't fit in boxes, I have learnt a lot through this, and for the first time in a long time feel as the lead weight (metaphorical) that held my mood down is gone and I have some chance of being usefull, I am considering attempting to sue,or some suitable action, them for damages, I don't want money, but they cannot be allowed to go on doing this to people.

Interestingly last night I woke up falling, assumed it was my fairly regular falling out of bed, but no I had been sleep walking and fell in quite a narrow bit between my sofa and kitchen door, i was really lucky not to hit my head and getting up was really difficult. i l landed on my hip and am not injured but am going to have some great bruises.
Congrats Celt

I'm still having problems with mine despite winning.
DWP are still withholding >£1K due to a possible overpayment.:facepalm:
Still heard nothing about severe disability payments while I was on JSA.:facepalm:
I've just had another letter from A4E for a mandatory appointment about getting me back to work. They were shown a letter last time I went in to say I was in the support group. :mad:
Maybe I need to send them a letter threatening legal action for harassment and fraud if they carry on.:rolleyes:

That doesn't sound like a bad idea, do you have anyone acting for you, ? Advocacy or similar,?
 
That doesn't sound like a bad idea, do you have anyone acting for you, ? Advocacy or similar,?
I have a solicitor acting for me (at DLA tribunal). I'll have to contact him. :)

Still not got last years Christmas 'bonus' or cold weather payments yet either. :(
 
I have a solicitor acting for me (at DLA tribunal). I'll have to contact him. :)

Still not got last years Christmas 'bonus' or cold weather payments yet either. :(

I know I had a letter telling me I would get the christmas bonus this year, but that was because I had gone onto income based esa, and as I am now continuing the contribution based I won't get it, and thats fine.

I think you need to get your solicitor to chase up the outstanding money, they seem to have treated you very badly.
 
My gp is no help at all. Eventually entually he seemed to agree to write a support letter. I gave him the CAB report with the relevant descriptors and he asked if he could have it (they've already sent a letter to the surgery) and after giving it a look said he would be ok writing something. Two weeks later the letter is basically "Mr AW thinks he has aspergers and is a bit anxious, plus I'm a bit fed up with the system" (ie he's fed up with me asking him to help me and wishes I'd just bugger off, i suspect).
 
Awesome Wells is there anyone else involved in your care that can write a supportive letter, amongst my evidence was a statement from a family member who gave a narrative of how life was for me as regards how my health problems impacted on the life.

Have you had a look at the http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ site?
I have heard of that site, but its behind a paywall. So no. There are plenty of other sources, including here, where that information can be made freely available and the CAB seem helpful enough.

I've hadned the letter the GP wrote to the CAB today. If there are any issues with it they will let me know.

My local GP surgery is a mess; it's run by an idiot. Unfortunately these doctors subscribe to the arbeit macht frei theory. Oddly my GP agrees I need the right kind of support and that being forced into any old job isn't going to help. Unfortunately he has a real blindspot when it comes to understanding the benefit system and thinks that anything he does is akin to signing someone into oblivion - condemning them to a life on benefits. That isn't how ESA works, but he really doesn't get it.
 
Just wait till next monday. Perhaps he'll save up his petulance, store it in some gland in his brain, and lose his shit completely then.

I've heard, through the Civil Service grapevine, that he regularly "completely loses his shit" anyway. His dept has what an old mate described (in classic Civil Service fashion :D ) as "an anomalously-high turnover of mid-level and senior Civil Servants since the Secretary of State came onboard". In other words, he pisses off the people who work for him enough that they're willing to transfer out of a dept where their competencies lie, and take their chances elsewhere. Says a lot for Dunked-in Shit, doesn't it? :)
 
I've heard, through the Civil Service grapevine, that he regularly "completely loses his shit" anyway. His dept has what an old mate described (in classic Civil Service fashion :D ) as "an anomalously-high turnover of mid-level and senior Civil Servants since the Secretary of State came onboard". In other words, he pisses off the people who work for him enough that they're willing to transfer out of a dept where their competencies lie, and take their chances elsewhere. Says a lot for Dunked-in Shit, doesn't it? :)

Remember when he said he'd bite a guy's balls off? That was fucked, I don't know why more wasn't made of that in the press. When you see lads bulling themselves up for a confrontation "I'll rip his head off", "I'll break his legs" etc are all fairly standard, but threatening to bite a bit of a person's anatomy off, that's taking it to another level.
 
Remember when he said he'd bite a guy's balls off? That was fucked, I don't know why more wasn't made of that in the press. When you see lads bulling themselves up for a confrontation "I'll rip his head off", "I'll break his legs" etc are all fairly standard, but threatening to bite a bit of a person's anatomy off, that's taking it to another level.

Typical officer class - always thinking about the merry japes they had with the first years back when they were prefects at school.
 
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