Anti austerity march...urb meet up?

[Orang Utan]

& i'm asking if they're asking.

I don't know. They're just seems to be an air of sneering about this demo, as if it was pointless because the government won't take any notice. That's not the reason I and many others marched. We're not that foolish.

 

[Orang Utan]

& i'm asking if they're asking.

Eh?

 

[Orang Utan]

depends on what happens at the demo
don't think people are saying not to bother but how much effort goes and money into them and they are then ignored

do you think doing a march like the weekend a year is enough? every 6 months?

I don't know!

 

[Pickman's model]

We're not that foolish.

well... i for one don't want to go down that route

 

[cesare]

Of course not. We're going round in circles, I think. I've already given the reasons people demonstrate several times.

We're going round in circles because people are pointing out the reasons why A to B marches are doomed to fail in their objective, if their objective is to change the reason for the A to B march. What people aren't doing though (as far as I can see) is "pooh poohing" or being dismissive of individuals marching - you've come to that erroneous conclusion yourself so no wonder the conversation keeps going round in circles.

 

[Pickman's model]

Of course not. We're going round in circles, I think. I've already given the reasons people demonstrate several times.

march on parliament not in circles

 

[ddraig]

I don't know!

ok
are you happy to march now and then? does it make you feel you'e done your bit?

 

[Orang Utan]

ok
are you happy to march now and then? does it make you feel you'e done your bit?

Yes
No

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes
No

indecisive

 

[Orang Utan]

We're going round in circles because people are pointing out the reasons why A to B marches are doomed to fail in their objective, if their objective is to change the reason for the A to B march. What people aren't doing though (as far as I can see) is "pooh poohing" or being dismissive of individuals marching - you've come to that erroneous conclusion yourself so no wonder the conversation keeps going round in circles.

I'm not sure I understand what objectives a march is supposed to have. To change a government's mind? Surely not. To register dissent? Yes, of course. To show solidarity to others and to bolster the determination to resist? Yes and maybe.
PS are there other kinds of marches besides 'a-b'?

 

[Orang Utan]

indecisive

Two answers to two questions

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not sure I understand what objectives a march is supposed to have. To change a government's mind? Surely not. To register dissent? Yes, of course. To show solidarity to others and to bolster the determination to resist? Yes and maybe.
PS are there other kinds of marches besides 'a-b'?

a-b-a; {a,b,c,d}-e are two which leap to mind.

 

[Pickman's model]

Two answers to two questions

why not give each question only one answer?

 

[Orang Utan]

why not give each question only one answer?

I did.

 

[Pickman's model]

I did

you need more precision in your english.

 

[editor]

I went on the march because I fucking wanted to. That's a good enough reason for me.

 

[Orang Utan]

you need more precision in your english.

Only by your persnickety standards.

 

[Pickman's model]

Only by your persnickety standards.

americanisms thread >>>

where you really need some rigour is your politicks, which appear to be of the effete and ineffectual liberal line.

 

[Orang Utan]

americanisms thread >>>

My phone did that!

 

[Pickman's model]

My phone did that!

right. your phone makes things up for you. explains a lot.

 

[cesare]

I'm not sure I understand what objectives a march is supposed to have. To change a government's mind? Surely not. To register dissent? Yes, of course. To show solidarity to others and to bolster the determination to resist? Yes and maybe.
PS are there other kinds of marches besides 'a-b'?

I thought that the objective of this particular march was "tell the new government to "End Austerity Now" https://thepeoplesassembly.nationbuilder.com/2015appeal That's what PA were/are trying to raise £60K to do, according to them.

Some marches are circular. Some go up to the top of the hill and then go down again.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought that the objective of this particular march was "tell the new government to "End Austerity Now" https://thepeoplesassembly.nationbuilder.com/2015appeal That's what PA were/are trying to raise £60K to do, according to them.

Some marches are circular. Some go up to the top of the hill and then go down again.

you'll get his hopes up and then you'll dash them

 

[cesare]

you'll get his hopes up and then you'll dash them

When they were up they were up. But when they were down they were down

 

[ddraig]

Yes
No

what next then? beyond the marches?

 

[Pickman's model]

what next then? beyond the marches?

wales is beyond the marches

 

[Pickman's model]

When they were up they were up. But when they were down they were down

 

[ddraig]

I thought that the objective of this particular march was "tell the new government to "End Austerity Now" https://thepeoplesassembly.nationbuilder.com/2015appeal That's what PA were/are trying to raise £60K to do, according to them.

Some marches are circular. Some go up to the top of the hill and then go down again.

this this this!!
I have asked the big wigs in Cardiff People's Assembly how marching is going to do this and they can't or won't answer. sometimes in over a 1000 words

they also post things like 'see you on the streets' which to me implied more than marching from the statue of Aneurin Bevan up the street and back again to hear the usual people saying the usual things and patting themselves in the back for it and being congratulated and inspiring etc!
I have been ridiculed and banned. They also think you have something to hide if you wear face coverings and some want to march with the police as they "are just people too" it is seriously fucking depressing.

As mentioned before, when they were pushed they advertised one as helping the homeless and said they needed 4 cars to ferry the stuff donated from their many members. They ended up with one car load and i think it was mostly noodles and socks.
In contrast, a punk gig for a foodbank had a shitload from about 30-40 people that filled half the venue

 

[ddraig]

also the PA here in Cardiff is not transparent with money or decisions
and they have meetings about meetings

 

[Orang Utan]

right. your phone makes things up for you. explains a lot.

It autocorrected. Why do we have to have these fruitless digressions?

 

[Orang Utan]

what next then? beyond the marches?

I don't know!