Anti austerity march...urb meet up?

[panpete]

a ton of stuff here https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=swp rape

im not a socialist and don't condone rape, i just wanted to contrubute to people who want to fight austerity.

 

[Citizen66]

im not a socialist and don't condone rape, i just wanted to contrubute to people who want to fight austerity.

Surely fighting austerity can't be described as anything other than socialist?

 

[panpete]

Look at the thread about them, panpete

the thread, is there link i can read to save me trawling through,thanks

 

[panpete]

(((panpete)))

srry to sund abbrevo-naiive but what does CBA mean? thanks
ww Cant be arsed.
so there is a thread about socialists condoning rape, i read something online but im not a socialist anywy

 

[panpete]

again, well done for giving a shit where many don't
what do you think another march will achieve?
I would personally give money to a local grassroots campaign where you can see what they're spending it on and what they are doing

I don't want to be made homeless cos my contributions based esa ends
I don't want any vulnerable citizen suffering more.
I hope marches will be better than taking up the ring piece by cameron.
I do agree that local campaigns are good also and making a difference is also good.

 

[panpete]

One tactic is to do a count when it's raining, so some people won't be rough-sleeping at their normal pitches, or to do a count at a shelter in the afternoon, rather than when the doors are closed for the night.
Westminster have a long history of getting their street-cleansers to hose down pitches just before a count is done, and even tried to get soup kitchens etc banned.

Thanks, doing counts when rough sleepers are not about is crap and hosing down rough sleepers is also crap, both fascist slimey tactics.

 

[ddraig]

I don't want to be made homeless cos my contributions based esa ends
I don't want any vulnerable citizen suffering more.
I hope marches will be better than taking up the ring piece by cameron.
I do agree that local campaigns are good also and making a difference is also good.

I don't want any of these things to happen to you but marches are really not going to help, sorry

 

[Orang Utan]

I don't want any of these things to happen to you but marches are really not going to help, sorry

marches give people confidence. see my earlier post.

 

[ddraig]

yes indeed
how do they stop vulnerable citizens suffering more?

 

[Orang Utan]

yes indeed
how do they stop vulnerable citizens suffering more?

they might not make the government u-turn on their persecution of them, but they can give them a sense of solidarity, that others are behind and boost their confidence to fight back. why do i have to say this for a third time?

 

[AC14]

they might not make the government u-turn on their persecution of them, but they can give them a sense of solidarity, that others are behind and boost their confidence to fight back. why do i have to say this for a third time?

It makes them demoralised when they don't achieve their aims.

 

[ddraig]

they might not make the government u-turn on their persecution of them, but they can give them a sense of solidarity, that others are behind and boost their confidence to fight back. why do i have to say this for a third time?

they won't make the government u turn
good that people get confidence from it, how many times should people march before the feeling of it not achieving any change for them kicks in?

 

[Orang Utan]

they won't make the government u turn
good that people get confidence from it, how many times should people march before the feeling of it not achieving any change for them kicks in?

i don't think people necessarily march to change, they march to demonstrate their dissatisfaction. Have you not read my earlier posts?

 

[ddraig]

good on them and good on you, good night

 

[DownwardDog]

I take it you mean in municipal designed environments?

No. Existentialist wrote 'Peterlee' (grim new town in the North East) when he obviously meant 'Peterloo' (place in Manchester where something irrelevant happened 200 years ago). So I posted a picture of Peterlee by way of gentle mockery. It was just an attempt to inject some levity into what is an otherwise turgid thread full of middle class people indulging in virtue signalling.

 

[yield]

No. Existentialist wrote 'Peterlee' (grim new town in the North East) when he obviously meant 'Peterloo' (place in Manchester where something irrelevant happened 200 years ago). So I posted a picture of Peterlee by way of gentle mockery. It was just an attempt to inject some levity into what is an otherwise turgid thread full of middle class people indulging in virtue signalling.

Where as you're just a middle class ex RAF officer making sure everyone knows you're a cunt.

I'm not a cunt = virtue signalling. FFS what a short sighted world you live in.

 

[Pickman's model]

i don't think people necessarily march to change, they march to demonstrate their dissatisfaction. Have you not read my earlier posts?

so it's just a means of letting off steam and the govt off the hook iyo

 

[Orang Utan]

so it's just a means of letting off steam and the govt off the hook iyo

Unless people start smashing stuff up.
But not quite. I'm not repeating myself again though.

 

[Citizen66]

marches give people confidence.

As do singing lessons.

 

[DotCommunist]

one of the reasons other than simple economics that I didn't go is cos I got all paranoid about getting pushed over or hit in the stomach by OB and ending up tomlinsoned (my gut aint good for the same reasons as he) and dying from an internal bleed out. Imagine my suprise when it seems OB were on their best behaviour and barely fucked with anyone. Funny how that happens when they are outnumbered isn't it.

 

[Orang Utan]

As do singing lessons.

Fatuous response

 

[Citizen66]

Fatuous response

Gives people confidence for what?

It just sounds like a breezy platitude to stick on it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Unless people start smashing stuff up.
But not quite. I'm not repeating myself again though.

so just to confirm, you believe peaceful demos just letting the govt off the hook and steam off the demonstrators.

 

[Orang Utan]

so just to confirm, you believe peaceful demos just letting the govt off the hook and steam off the demonstrators.

You wot?

 

[Orang Utan]

Gives people confidence for what?

It just sounds like a breezy platitude to stick on it.

Facing the coming challenges. Becoming more active. Joining activist groups. Starting their own. Etc etc

 

[Citizen66]

Facing the coming challenges. Becoming more active. Joining activist groups. Starting their own. Etc etc

It could also be argued that it draws people away from those things.

 

[Pickman's model]

You wot?

have you lost the ability to witter since 0745?

 

[DotCommunist]

also, its a good day out. And whats wrong with a good day out. Is it october 1917, no, but you can wander around, look at all the pretty things and chat to people who if not perhaps like minded are at least on the same page politically. A-B marches may not change anything but fuck it- babylon didn't fall in one day.

 

[Pickman's model]

It could also be argued that it draws people away from those things.

ou doesn't seem to have done any of the things he lists, does he.

 

[Orang Utan]

have you lost the ability to witter since 0745?

I didn't understand the post