Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What do white sheets with political stuff on them mean to a black american laurie?
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Black helicopter?
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Just for info the protest sign, quickly cleared up:
I'm sure I've walked that street in my time. . .
rekil
to menny cranks
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is that the latest rap combo?
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
N***as with Occupy?
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Bloody hell, there's advance gentrification painted on the wallsI half buy it for this:
Not so much this
Because this is what we all should aspire to
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
straight outta brompton
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That banksy will do anything for money
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Monetize your Norn Ironess
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Maybe you could touch him for a few quid.
Might be the best few quid you'd ever spend.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Sharp struggle for young black working-class women by Malcolm:
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346898856979623936
Also generally fighting adult privilege:
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346988251749429248
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346988633229754369
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346898856979623936
Also generally fighting adult privilege:
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346988251749429248
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/346988633229754369
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think people like you are what they scared of Malcolm. And not for the reasons you think.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Still don't get my head round the whole phenomenon at all:
http://www.haringeyindependent.co.uk/news/10458366.Banksy_sold_for_more_than___750_000/
rekil
to menny cranks
Natural Wiz Opinioners
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Right then, I know that area better than Laurie Penny does. So let me dissect her poorly written bollocks for you all.
Key:
Pink - exaggeration/lies
Blue - found out via a quick google search/Youtube videos/made up on the spot/stating the obvious/general Laurie Penny problems
Black - Probably untrue but I don't have the time to do any more than what I can do off the top of my head right now
'protest camp' is reported to be about 4 tents on the boggy field the Erne (river that goes around the town) flows into
In Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, the streets are full of fake shop-fronts, designed to give the impression that empty stores are still selling things. Some of them are so realistic that locals have attempted to walk through doors that turn out to be painted on. The small Northern Irish town has 4.8 per cent unemployment, with an 82 per cent rise in redundancies last year, and a population of 14,000, plus about 3,000 police from all over Britain, plus a protest camp. It’s here that the 2013 G8 conference is taking place.
The G8 allows the world's richest nations to come together without representatives of the global south blocking the corridors and raising inconvenient points in meetings, but that's not its only function. It is also about pomp and show. It’s a pageant of neoliberal capitalism functioning whether local residents like it or not. That sort of pageantry requires the suppression of dissent, especially in a political climate where the elite's only answer to a drop in living standards and a collapse of faith in democracy is to line up an epic number of police with water cannons and tear gas.
“They’ve spent fifty million on policing,” Gerry Carroll, an activist in Belfast, tells me. “For god’s sake, could they not have just had the meeting on Skype?”
Since the 2001 summit in Genoa was targeted by 200,000 protesters, all subsequent G8 meetings have been held in remote locations designed to be inaccessible to the general rabble; last year the gathering was due to come to Chicago, but the location was changed to Camp David after the Occupy movement promised to converge on the city. This year, the chosen pitch is tiny Enniskillen, a good two hours' drive from Belfast even without roadblocks and hold-ups.
There has been an enormous uptick in police presence and capabilities both on the streets of Belfast and in rural County Fermanagh. Central Belfast was virtually shut down on Saturday during the peaceful march called by local left groups, where 3,000 demonstrators were met by an almost equal number of police, even though the G8 leaders weren’t even in the country yet. Local prison facilities have been expanded, horrifying residents. "One of the top stories on the news here in the North was that they'd spent millions building this facility – they're so prepared for mass violence that they could lock up 300 people at will," Sean Mitchell, an activist with the Irish anti-austerity group People Before Profit, tells me.
The choice to hold the G8 in Northern Ireland is an interesting one, designed in part to showcase the state's newfound stability, but also to demonstrate the lengths to which local law enforcement is prepared to go to defend that stability. In his speech at the Waterfront Hall in Belfast this morning, Obama praised the people of Northern Ireland for their commitment to ending sectarian violence, saying that the peace process gave "the entire world hope." He quoted Yeats and Heaney, made jokes about the craic, and spoke of sunny days free from the anticipation of violence. Outside it rained hard on 3,000 police, the sort of airless city rain that seems to come from all directions at once.
You might have been forgiven for thinking the whole of Belfast loved Obama, were it not for the massive slogan marked out in white bedsheets on a nearby hill, visible across the city, and certainly from the presidential helicopter. The slogan reads “G8/NWO: WAR CRIMINALS.”
The governments in Westminster and Stormont are keen to show off a Northern Ireland free from the merest whimper of trouble, whatever it takes. In the process, they have collapsed the notion of hard-won peace into a logic whereby all protest is put down and suppressed in the name of "stability". This confuses, effectively, the idea of a state in which citizens work together to live better lives after years of fighting – some might call this a democracy functioning well – with a state in which no dissent is tolerated, which is the sort of crisis of representative democracy that most G8 leaders, from Putin to President Obama, are facing at home right now.
This morning the streets of Enniskilllen, lined with abandoned shops disguised behind false fronts, were practically deserted. Protesters making their way to Fermanagh from across Northern Ireland expect to be arrested and thrown into one of the specially-developed dentention facilities standing ready for them. I spoke to young Fermanagh residents who had been hassled at home by the police merely for discussing the possibility of peaceful protest on the internet; all of them were too frightened of retribution to talk on the record. To mistake this bicep-flexing neoliberal muscle-show for a stable state full of happy people would be a mistake.
"The argument is that we're in a new situation, a 'New Northern Ireland', but the security response to the G8 has broken that down," says Sean Mitchell. "It's the same mass-scale, repressive response to political protest - but this time used against anti-capitalist protesters."
Note that the only bits that might be of any worth are other people's quotes. And we know what she's like with misquoting people etc.
She can fly back and forth to the USA but I guess Fermanagh just isn't cool enough for her.
Also she didn't bother mentioning that there had been bomb scares in the smaller villages around Fermanagh a couple of months back. They'd been reported in the local papers. But hey, if Enniskillen is tiny then I guess Derrylin etc doesn't even exist.
Key:
Pink - exaggeration/lies
Blue - found out via a quick google search/Youtube videos/made up on the spot/stating the obvious/general Laurie Penny problems
Black - Probably untrue but I don't have the time to do any more than what I can do off the top of my head right now
'protest camp' is reported to be about 4 tents on the boggy field the Erne (river that goes around the town) flows into
In Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, the streets are full of fake shop-fronts, designed to give the impression that empty stores are still selling things. Some of them are so realistic that locals have attempted to walk through doors that turn out to be painted on. The small Northern Irish town has 4.8 per cent unemployment, with an 82 per cent rise in redundancies last year, and a population of 14,000, plus about 3,000 police from all over Britain, plus a protest camp. It’s here that the 2013 G8 conference is taking place.
The G8 allows the world's richest nations to come together without representatives of the global south blocking the corridors and raising inconvenient points in meetings, but that's not its only function. It is also about pomp and show. It’s a pageant of neoliberal capitalism functioning whether local residents like it or not. That sort of pageantry requires the suppression of dissent, especially in a political climate where the elite's only answer to a drop in living standards and a collapse of faith in democracy is to line up an epic number of police with water cannons and tear gas.
“They’ve spent fifty million on policing,” Gerry Carroll, an activist in Belfast, tells me. “For god’s sake, could they not have just had the meeting on Skype?”
Since the 2001 summit in Genoa was targeted by 200,000 protesters, all subsequent G8 meetings have been held in remote locations designed to be inaccessible to the general rabble; last year the gathering was due to come to Chicago, but the location was changed to Camp David after the Occupy movement promised to converge on the city. This year, the chosen pitch is tiny Enniskillen, a good two hours' drive from Belfast even without roadblocks and hold-ups.
There has been an enormous uptick in police presence and capabilities both on the streets of Belfast and in rural County Fermanagh. Central Belfast was virtually shut down on Saturday during the peaceful march called by local left groups, where 3,000 demonstrators were met by an almost equal number of police, even though the G8 leaders weren’t even in the country yet. Local prison facilities have been expanded, horrifying residents. "One of the top stories on the news here in the North was that they'd spent millions building this facility – they're so prepared for mass violence that they could lock up 300 people at will," Sean Mitchell, an activist with the Irish anti-austerity group People Before Profit, tells me.
The choice to hold the G8 in Northern Ireland is an interesting one, designed in part to showcase the state's newfound stability, but also to demonstrate the lengths to which local law enforcement is prepared to go to defend that stability. In his speech at the Waterfront Hall in Belfast this morning, Obama praised the people of Northern Ireland for their commitment to ending sectarian violence, saying that the peace process gave "the entire world hope." He quoted Yeats and Heaney, made jokes about the craic, and spoke of sunny days free from the anticipation of violence. Outside it rained hard on 3,000 police, the sort of airless city rain that seems to come from all directions at once.
You might have been forgiven for thinking the whole of Belfast loved Obama, were it not for the massive slogan marked out in white bedsheets on a nearby hill, visible across the city, and certainly from the presidential helicopter. The slogan reads “G8/NWO: WAR CRIMINALS.”
The governments in Westminster and Stormont are keen to show off a Northern Ireland free from the merest whimper of trouble, whatever it takes. In the process, they have collapsed the notion of hard-won peace into a logic whereby all protest is put down and suppressed in the name of "stability". This confuses, effectively, the idea of a state in which citizens work together to live better lives after years of fighting – some might call this a democracy functioning well – with a state in which no dissent is tolerated, which is the sort of crisis of representative democracy that most G8 leaders, from Putin to President Obama, are facing at home right now.
This morning the streets of Enniskilllen, lined with abandoned shops disguised behind false fronts, were practically deserted. Protesters making their way to Fermanagh from across Northern Ireland expect to be arrested and thrown into one of the specially-developed dentention facilities standing ready for them. I spoke to young Fermanagh residents who had been hassled at home by the police merely for discussing the possibility of peaceful protest on the internet; all of them were too frightened of retribution to talk on the record. To mistake this bicep-flexing neoliberal muscle-show for a stable state full of happy people would be a mistake.
"The argument is that we're in a new situation, a 'New Northern Ireland', but the security response to the G8 has broken that down," says Sean Mitchell. "It's the same mass-scale, repressive response to political protest - but this time used against anti-capitalist protesters."
Note that the only bits that might be of any worth are other people's quotes. And we know what she's like with misquoting people etc.
She can fly back and forth to the USA but I guess Fermanagh just isn't cool enough for her.
Also she didn't bother mentioning that there had been bomb scares in the smaller villages around Fermanagh a couple of months back. They'd been reported in the local papers. But hey, if Enniskillen is tiny then I guess Derrylin etc doesn't even exist.
rekil
to menny cranks
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/344137225459609600
He seems to think that 36 is middle aged.
https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet/status/344137994955022336
rekil
to menny cranks
He's for real. He's SWP but she can't say that.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Whatever happened to Davy Carlin? Didn't he say he was going to stay active in politics after he dropped out of the Belfast SWP?
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Black's just anything that didn't definitely fit into the other two categories.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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