Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[Steel Icarus]

And he once caused a stir at Heckmondwyke fete by posting a notice claiming the Grimethorpe Colliery band were going to be playing outside the village hall.

I know. What a cunt. I was stood in the cold for AGES*


*I have actually seen them and they were fab

 

[Favelado]

600 pages!

500,000 page views coming up.

 

[JimW]

I know. What a cunt. I was stood in the cold for AGES*


*I have actually seen them and they were fab

If I have them right preferred them doing their trad repertoire to some of these modern pop tunes that seem a bit gimmicky, but only seen them on the telly.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Sorry for the sensible comment, but I reckon this lot are much more like the fabians were in the Webbs' time than fash by the way.

As you, me and several others have already mentioned on this thread over its' course.

 

[el-ahrairah]

You guys are my heros

are you the aaron peters what got called a cunt? or am i getting confused now?

 

[Aaron Peters]

yeah I imagine so

 

[el-ahrairah]

yeah I imagine so

it happens at my age. carry on then.

 

[articul8]

are you the aaron peters what got called a cunt? or am i getting confused now?

wasn't that aaron porter? (may also apply)

 

[Aaron Peters]

no as in former that was referred to as a cunt

 

[Steel Icarus]

If I have them right preferred them doing their trad repertoire to some of these modern pop tunes that seem a bit gimmicky, but only seen them on the telly.

Nah, there was Flight of the Bumblebee, New World Hovis, Rossini's Lone Ranger Overture, the fuckin' lot.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Aaron Porter = NUS bellend
Aaron Peters = buff dissent entrepreneur, does Novara radio, mates with Laura

 

[rekil]

Is there any chance of "compiling the list" in an easy access form?

e.g.

Laurie Penny The New Statesman, twitter. Privately educated, plagiarising, lying parasite. called Urban racist and misogynist
Molly Crabapple artworld, twitter. "monetize your hotness", parasite.
Malcolm Harris New Inquiry, #OWS, twitter. $5000 to talk about #OWS, parasite, sleaze/borderline nonce.
Owen Jones The Independent. Nice lad but waay to close to bubble commentariat. Dresses Labour apologism in "lefty Boy next door" guise.
Johann Hari The Independent. Plagiarist and liar.

and so on. Nice hyperlinks to tiwtter feed, main crimes, main media outlets etc. Kept in a single, regularly bumped post?

It's make life easier.

An old boss of mine followed PD on the twitter machine the other day. He gave me some work when he was editor of a tiny mag years ago. He's in the BBC now. I've yet to have a word so I can't promise anything but if you see an "Opportunism Within The Proletarian Milieu" Panorama special at some point in the near future, you're welcome.

 

[DotCommunist]

600 pages!

 

[el-ahrairah]

wasn't that aaron porter? (may also apply)

i cannae fucking remember. mind you, if it was aaron porter, then she might have been right on that one, labourite pillock.

 

[ViolentPanda]

yes i read that. "Alienating people from active political participation". How are the mass of working class people alienated from active political participation by what laurie penny says about stuff.

It's not just Penny. As has been made repeatedly clear on the thread, it's her entire commentariat milieu, and the effect their shallow engagement with left politics has on people who get inspired by the rhetoric, but become quickly disenchanted when they realise the politics espoused by "the bubble" is skin-deep, inimical to class analysis, and is actually a vehicle for the writer.

And what does that say about working class people if that was the case?

It says some of us are tired of leadership figures, self-styled "gurus" and "radicals" who promise to lead us to "the promised land" and then rip us off. For some of us, we try to get around this through applying bottom-up principles of self-organisation, but for others, the disenchantment leads to either political apathy of the "they're all the same" kind, or to an active eschewal of politics per se. You know this!

 

[el-ahrairah]

Aaron Porter = NUS bellend
Aaron Peters = buff dissent entrepreneur, does Novara radio, mates with Laura

entrepreneur? what is he trying to sell us? sorry, monetise.

 

[rekil]

PD logoman was clearly modelled on superbuff Aaron.

 

[DaveCinzano]

are you the aaron peters what got called a cunt? or am i getting confused now?

Are you thinking of Jacob from The Third Estate?

 

[chilango]

An old boss of mine followed PD on the twitter machine the other day. He gave me some work when he was editor of a tiny mag years ago. He's in the BBC now. I've yet to have a word so I can't promise anything but if you see an "Opportunism Within The Proletarian Milieu" Panoroma special at some point in the near future, you're welcome.

Can't he do a special post-revolutionary "wanted down under" where imprisoned commentariat weigh up the pros and cons of life in a London prison versus work camps in Devon.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Are you thinking of Jacob from The Third Estate?

i don't know anymore Dave

 

[ViolentPanda]

Laurie Penny steps in to defend Malcolm Harris whilst still maintaining she's better than us.

https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/328678224643108867

Surely Penny calling Harris babe is matronising and demeaning of him and his gender?

 

[DotCommunist]

PD logoman was clearly modelled on superbuff Aaron.

He is always captured mid shout. I wonder what he is shouting. 'Death yo the bourgeois commenteriat!' maybe

 

[Steel Icarus]

entrepreneur? what is he trying to sell us? sorry, monetise.

http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010...nt-2010-the-rise-of-the-dissent-entrepreneur/

 

[DaveCinzano]

i don't know anymore Dave

I don't know, you confuse your Jacobs and your Jacobins, can't tell your Aarons apart, are undecided on whether you're 'self-proclaimed' or 'soi-disant'...

When did you get old?

 

[el-ahrairah]

I don't know, you confuse your Jacobs and your Jacobins, can't tell your Aarons apart, are undecided on whether you're 'self-proclaimed' or 'soi-disant'...

When did you get old?

somewhere around page 250 of this thread

 

[Fozzie Bear]

no as in former that was referred to as a cunt

the one off Resonance?

 

[el-ahrairah]

http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010...nt-2010-the-rise-of-the-dissent-entrepreneur/

is that some sort of non-aligned vanguardism? not sure what's entrepreneurial about it. but at least he's not selling something.

 

[JimW]

... I wonder what he is shouting....

"Calling occupants of interplanetary craft!"

 

[ViolentPanda]

No you wouldn't. You'll never do anything but moan about them on here. Ever.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, even as regards women with tattoos and dyed hair.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ahh. Master Bates, who are you then?

It's someone very obvious.