Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[Firky]

I'm not sure this is right, Richard Murphy was the guest last week and he said the bbc didn't pay his expenses let alone a fee.

Perhaps he's just a bad negotiator, I was surprised he didn't get expenses.

I was going off what butchers said.

I know she was at the BBC studios because she moaned about their computers being old or slow.

 

[BigTom]

The expenses being the cost of leccy while you have your telly on, or are you supposed to travel to the studio to make you tweets?

You're in the bbc building in London according to Richard Murphy, he said he traveled from Norfolk or Norwich (can't remember where he lives) on the train to do it and didn't even get his ticket paid.
I'll see if I can find the tweets for links when I'm on a computer later.

 

[JimW]

You're in the bbc building in London according to Richard Murphy, he said he traveled from Norfolk or Norwich (can't remember where he lives) on the train to do it and didn't even get his ticket paid.
I'll see if I can find the tweets for links when I'm on a computer later.

That seems a bit mad - would have thought if there was any value to the role at all it would be someone more like a viewer's tribune sat at home like the rest of us.

 

[Firky]

They're probably worried incase you accidentally tweet your Angry Birds score if you did it from home.

 

[BigTom]

Here are the tweets: https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/309964685195751425

“@HenryPath: @RichardJMurphy I enjoyed your tweets ... [as] Extra Guest - were you offered a fee for doing it?” No! Not even train fare

and https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/309965708723384320

@HenryPath I live in Norfolk and had to do it at the BBC

(none of this means that Laurie wasn't paid of course)

 

[Firky]

I am sure if you asked her, she'd give a civil answer, one that wouldn't be aggressively defensive.

Or make some hilarious quip how she was paid - in tea. LOL.

 

[coley]

Nearly 500 pages, certainly provokes a response, whoever she is

 

[butchersapron]

How many factual errors can YOU spot:

The SWP and rape: why I care about this Marxist-Leninist implosion

(Article doesn't really say much either beyond the political banalities, not sure why it exists or why it needs to exist)

 

[Balbi]

Because now it's been commented on by someone who matters in her young hip activist wordslinger demographic.

 

[smokedout]

Because now it's been commented on by someone who matters in her young hip activist wordslinger demographic.

title says it all: The SWP and rape: why I care about this Marxist-Leninist implosion

 

[Steel Icarus]

Because now it's been commented on by someone who matters in her young hip activist wordslinger demographic.

Yep. You can't expect an opinion to be valid unless the professor of the opinion is (by Twitter follower count) valid, eh

 

[Steel Icarus]

.

 

[DotCommunist]

I agree

 

[Balbi]

I agree

The opinion is therefore now proper urbans.

 

[Steel Icarus]

There's also a bit of a clash between Penny's views on the SWP's role on "the left" between this bit from the latest article

The SWP is small, but it has been a significant organising force on the British left for more than 30 years, taking a leading role in coalitions like Stop the War, Unite Against Fascism and, recently, the fight against austerity in the nation's poorest communities.

and this from 2010 http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/17/resignations-rivalry-and-the-future-of-the-left/

The SWP has been at the forefront of every attempt to scupper cohesion on the left over the past decade,

And on a petty level I really like the overblown verbiage of the penultimate paragraph of that second piece, especially the misuse of "recalcitrant".

 

[J Ed]

This Owen Jones article is a bit too self-involved but he gives the EDL sympathiser Douglas Murray a well deserved kicking http://www.newstatesman.com/world-a...ing-me-distract-damning-un-report-israel-gaza

 

[Firky]

Sunny's indepth anaylsis of The Sun - 5 sentences and a photo of RM.

No real background or thought into hone why this is significant or anything. He gets paid for this..?

Labour MP Siobhain McDonagh’s phone was stolen in October 2010 and she immediately reported it to the police.

In June 2012, she is informed by the police that the Sun newspaper accessed texts from her stolen phone not long after it was stolen.

Today, the Sun newspaper did not admit to the theft of the phone itself, but will pay the MP “very substantial damages” because they admitted to accessing those texts.

This story is important because the Sun editor in 2010, when they accessed text messages from a stolen phone, was Dominic Mohan.

He is still the Sun editor.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/03/18/why-the-sun-hacking-of-labour-mp-is-so-significant/

 

[tufty79]

randomish aside:

email to new statesman:



response:


can anyone please explain why the last part of Helen's sentence would make any difference to the response i'm going to get?

epic bump on this bit!
managed to miss a reply from helen, from a couple of months ago.

Sorry for the lack of response. It’s probably best to contact our head of HR, Chris Denning:

journalists' personal responsibility and confirming whether they've procedures in place = an hr issue? really?

i'll get asking..

 

[killer b]

salute to muscovyduck - that's a mammoth task you're embarked on. see you sometime next week.

 

[tufty79]

 

[love detective]

salute to muscovyduck - that's a mammoth task you're embarked on. see you sometime next week.

There is no royal road to the laurie penny thread, and only those who do not dread the fatiguing climb of its steep paths have a chance of gaining its luminous summits

 

[DaveCinzano]

salute to muscovyduck - that's a mammoth task you're embarked on. see you sometime next week.

killer b has x new likes
tufty79 has y new likes
Where
y = 0
x > y

 

[Balbi]

killer b has x new likes
tufty79 has y new likes
Where
y = 0
x > y

I did notice.

 

[tufty79]

i didn't mean it like that
i read killer b's post as a bit 'the ducks quack at midnight' - should've used my confusedface.

sorry, i clearly shouldn't be allowed on the internet at the minute.

 

[Favelado]

I really like Laurie's recent article in the New Statesman.

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-poli...ectness-just-try-being-rude-about-margaret-th

 

[emanymton]

Hang on Tufty just got banned? how come? I didn't think he/she were serious about not being allowed to use the internet.

 

[Firky]

She's probably asked to be banned.

 

[barney_pig]

She's probably asked to be banned.

That's right, blame the victim

 

[Firky]

 

[SpineyNorman]

I really like Laurie's recent article in the New Statesman.

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-poli...ectness-just-try-being-rude-about-margaret-th

That's not bad actually - though I'm struggling to avoid the temptation to have a go at her on twitter for using the term 'the disabled', a term that I happen to know a lot of disabled people find really offensive and I can see why they do too.