Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

It's embarrassing, that. I mean Penny's "me me me meeee" nonsense. Followed by a tweet about "TIME FOR EVERYONE TO SHUT UP ABOUT RYAN GOSLING" (capitals hers).

She gets picked on and defended by idiots on all sides, standing in the middle of it all, one eye weeping, the other glinting, one hand with middle finger raised and an establishment quill clutched in the other. I'm getting a bit fucking irritated with these fuckers.

Which fuckers?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Which fuckers?

The Voice of a Generation fuckers. Oxbridge journalists pushing themselves onto whichever media will have them to speak for the voiceless poor.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It's embarrassing, that. I mean Penny's "me me me meeee" nonsense. Followed by a tweet about "TIME FOR EVERYONE TO SHUT UP ABOUT RYAN GOSLING" (capitals hers).

She gets picked on and defended by idiots on all sides, standing in the middle of it all, one eye weeping, the other glinting, one hand with middle finger raised and an establishment quill clutched in the other. I'm getting a bit fucking irritated with these fuckers.

Nice rant, but complaining about reading self-centredness on twitter is kinda like moaning about being exposed to unpleasant smells upon entering a sewer.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Nice rant, but complaining about reading self-centredness on twitter is kinda like moaning about being exposed to unpleasant smells upon entering a sewer.

Aye, I know that. It's just that Penny and to a lesser extent Jones, although I agree with a fair bit of what they say, tend to exhibit the kind of traits those critical of "the left" make broad generalizations about. Especially Penny, screeching from one cause to another and having the depth of a July puddle.

 

[flypanam]

What the fuck is wrong with this gosling bloke?

Probably didn't recognise her. If he had, he'd probably left well alone. Just once I'd wish an actor would stay in character.

 

[imposs1904]

Ryan Gosling is currently trending a Number 1 on yahoo because 'he saved a journalist.'

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I think Owen Jones is sincere in his daft and naive beliefs, however Laurie Penny is a howling vacuum of compasion, politics, or sincerity imo.

 

[butchersapron]

I think Owen Jones is sincere in his daft and naive beliefs, however Laurie Penny is a howling vacuum of compasion, politics, or sincerity imo.

Damn right - Jones is a misguided one of us (for now). She ain't.

 

[rekil]

Americans are very strange. They can and do hyperventilate about the most everyday happenings as if they are the most important thing in the world, and then they act completely normal when public conversations are had about war on Iran and war on women's bodies and when Rick Santorum is considered a serious presidential candidate. The real heroes I've met in America are risking everything to make sure that the United States doesn't slide further into bigotry, inequality and violence whilst everyone is distracted by the everyday doings of celebrities.

Stupid normals.

 

[butchersapron]

shopping and eating their tea.Why can't they all just be jet-setting radical-chic superstars like me?

 

[articul8]

Damn right - Jones is a misguided one of us (for now).

Pleased to see his Labour membership card doesn't make him a class enemy to be liquidated (just yet).

 

[butchersapron]

Pleased to see his Labour membership card doesn't make him a class enemy to be liquidated (just yet).

Well he doesn't bother pretending to be some hard-core revolutionary,the most radical of the radical, the blackest of the black...

 

[rekil]

shopping and eating their tea.Why can't they all just be jet-setting radical-chic superstars like me?

Wake up sheeple! (And read my indy piece about waiting for some imaginary bloke to eat a sandwich)

 

[JimW]

Ryan Gosling is currently trending a Number 1 on yahoo because 'he saved a journalist.'

He's done it again, this time with a journalist?

 

[treelover]

She's used the term 'my generation' on more than one occasion which can be interpreted as positioning to be the spokesperson or at least the go to person for young people etc.

In the mid 80's Pete Hooton was considered the 'person to go to' on youth issues, partly because of the seminal fanzine, The End, but 'Hooto' was actually from Melling, a posh part of Merseyside, plus la change...

 

[frogwoman]

who is he? i've never heard of him.

 

[treelover]

lol

he's always chuffed about something

he was embarrassingly bad on the andrew neil show the other day - basic sloppiness in his facts/assertions left him wide open to be ridiculed by the smug neil and portillio

Yes, i quite like OJ's, my very shrewd friend who takes no political prisoners is raving about his book, but he was out of his depth on there, against Brillopad he really should have been more briefed, etc, or simply should know his stuff..

 

[butchersapron]

In the mid 80's Pete Hooton was considered the 'person to go to' on youth issues, partly because of the seminal fanzine, The End, but 'Hooto' was actually from Melling, a posh part of Merseyside, plus la change...

Sorry mate, that's an absolutely mental comparison

 

[treelover]

who is he? i've never heard of him.

sorry, forgot, lead 'singer' in The Farm..

 

[butchersapron]

who is he? i've never heard of him.

Lead singer from the Farm who were around for donkeys years then got famous for a few seconds in the early 90s.

 

[frogwoman]

Lead singer from the Farm who were around for donkeys years then got famous for a few seconds in the early 90s.

Oh, OK

 

[treelover]

Sorry mate, that's an absolutely mental comparison

to a degree, but this was a direct quote from director of youth programming at Ch4...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Brilliant band

"altogether now..."

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Our Penny has now stated she is "leaving Twitter until all this bloody fuss dies down."

Hurrah!

BUt then she tweets again 30 mins later

 

[rekil]

Suggestions here that La Pennionara is (prepare to be shocked comrades) making shit up.

Did Ryan Gosling really save Laurie Penny’s life? We’re not so sure.

Given that Ryan Gosling has not actually come out to confirm your life-changing event (he has merely confirmed that he’s in New York), we’re about ready to call this a hoax.

 

[butchersapron]

I can see a reverse solanis on the horizon.

 

[kavenism]

Suggestions here that La Pennionara is (prepare to be shocked comrades) making shit up.

Did Ryan Gosling really save Laurie Penny’s life? We’re not so sure.

Do you think there could be a LP sex tape about to break the water?

 

[treelover]

Brilliant band

"altogether now..."

'They became The Farm after Martin Dunbar (vocals) left and Peter Hooton joined. '

notice they don't mention Hooto was the lead vocalist, right cos he couldn't sing!

 

[JimW]

She's got so used to faking speaking for the young and the oppressed she reckons she can get away with it for A-list celebs. Is that a petard being loaded I hear?

 

[DaveCinzano]

'They became The Farm after Martin Dunbar (vocals) left and Peter Hooton joined. '

notice they don't mention Hooto was the lead vocalist, right cos he couldn't sing!

Did he take a shit in your cornflakes or something? He seems to rather vex you.