Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

I wonder was she a member when she was an unpaid labour party intern?

 

[frogwoman]

Is she a LP member now? Is it really true that to "get on" in that world you basically have to be a member of Labour? wtf

 

[butchersapron]

It's 'old' but still funny.

And from a year before - note the repeated 'we' and our:

Labour's new cohort knows what it's like to lose. We are, after all, the lost generation. We don't expect our dreams and ideals to be realised without a fight, and we don't expect much help from the grown-ups. There is a profound sense at this party conference that the elder generation of Labour statespeople has failed us, and that the time for deference is finally done. "Young Labour is buzzing with ideas, enthusiasm and anticipation of what can be achieved following this conference," said Tarry. With the politicians who saddled us with debt, tanked the economy and took us into Iraq shuffling off into the twilight, one thing's certain: it's our turn now.

 

[butchersapron]

Is she a LP member now? Is it really true that to "get on" in that world you basically have to be a member of Labour? wtf

After saying she was joining to work for Diane Abbot's Leadership campaign and urging 'the youth' to so the same, she then said she hadn't, despite saying a few months later that she 'no longer' was in labour. Lie after lie.

 

[frogwoman]

what?? why can't people just be honest

she's only a year or two older than me!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Is she a LP member now? Is it really true that to "get on" in that world you basically have to be a member of Labour? wtf

You don't have to be but it helps ask articul8

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

what?? why can't people just be honest

she's only a year or two older than me!

Being a Labour party member is a bit like looking at Japanese schoolgirl porn, it's a dirty little sectret you don't admit in polite company.

 

[frogwoman]

no i mean saying you're in labour but actually not being. One of my best mates is Labour party member but she doesn't go around saying she isn't

 

[Steel Icarus]

I'm reading Philip Roth's "American Pastoral" at the moment. Last night came across a character that for some reason seemed awfully familiar:

This loathsome kid with a head full of fantasies about the "working class"!
...
What was the whole sick enterprise other than angry, infantile egoism thinly disguised as identification with the oppressed? Her weighty responsibility to the workers of the world! Egoistic pathology bristled out of her like the hair that nuttily proclaimed, "I go wherever I want, as far as I want - all that matters is what I want!"
...
She was twenty-two years old, no more than five feet tall, and off on a reckless adventure with a very potent thing way beyond her comprehension called power. Not the least need of thought.
...
Her opinions were all stimuli - the goal was excitement.

 

[rekil]

I wonder was she a member when she was an unpaid labour party intern?

I will be joining the Labour Party again in order to vote for Abbott, and I will probably be volunteering for her campaign. You should too. Diane for King.

You posted this blog quote earlier and it was also quoted by the socialist unity site in may 2010. The 'again' now appears to have gone awol and she stuck in the never joining labour (until) nonsense. What will her anarchist mates say if they find out.

 

[butchersapron]

Shameless, absolutely shameless.

 

[frogwoman]

She's 24 or something now isn't she? In 2009 she would have been 21, wtf.

 

[Balbi]

"Young ambitious person makes decision they will later come to regret shocker"

 

[JimW]

I avoided that shame by having no ambition. She should try it!

 

[butchersapron]

...and by not being a lying bastard. She should try that too.

 

[JimW]

You're asking a bit much now. Leopard, spots etc.

 

[rekil]

Rowers take note, Laurie's hipster mate is having a do at Groucho's on April 26th. If you fancy getting back at the 'anarchists', why not get down there and fucking wreck it. Release a badger for me. As Laurie herself said.

Deeds, not words. Fewer business lunches, more throwing punches.

 

[butchersapron]

Does she think my mum has ever been to a business lunch in her life? Is that what she really thinks women who aren't her are doing? Getting on with high-flying careers that involve business lunches and blackberry's?

 

[rekil]

Maybe she has the worst rhyming dictionary in the world.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

why not get down there and fucking wreck it.

 

[frogwoman]

Does she think my mum has ever been to a business lunch in her life? Is that she really thinks women who aren't her are doing? Getting on with high-flying careers that involve business lunches and blackberry's?

yes. what, you mean they're not?

 

[Bakunin]

It was noted on the thread about A4E and Emma Harrison's imbecilic threats to sue everyone that cat and bag have already long since parted company.

For Penny Dreadful it appears that arse and elbow enjoy a similar lack of rapport...

 

[DotCommunist]

Rowers take note, Laurie's hipster mate is having a do at Groucho's on April 26th. If you fancy getting back at the 'anarchists', why not get down there and fucking wreck it. Release a badger for me. As Laurie herself said.

propaganda of the deed

 

[Bakunin]

P

Release a badger for me.

Please can it be a honey badger? After all, for sheer badness, look what this one's doing to a fucking cobra, of all creatures:

 

[gawkrodger]

completely off topic but my mate has a fight company called honey-badger. All the iconography has, well honeybadgers

 

[MAD-T-REX]

As Laurie herself said.

I can imagine her punching that out on the keyboard and then swanning off to have a latte with some arsehole in a hip cafe (maybe in Brixton Village; I hear it's the place to be!). Ugggghhhhh.

 

[rekil]

I can imagine her punching that out on the keyboard and then swanning off to have a latte with some arsehole in a hip cafe (maybe in Brixton Village; I hear it's the place to be!). Ugggghhhhh.

Nearly right. Except it's macchiatos with some arsehole in New York darling. Most likely imaginary ones with imaginary arsehole in imaginary cafe, but still.

 

[butchersapron]

I, too, have heard Metropolitan Police officers complain about overtime while they cuffed protesters for the crime of taking a stand against enforced austerity​

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No you haven't.

 

[frogwoman]

Not all cuts are equal. I, for example, have no desire to expend substantial effort fighting cuts to Britain's nuclear defence budgets, despite the fact that it is a major employer. Of course, police cuts are making room for the booming private security industry. Given the choice, I would rather be beaten in the street by a publicly owned police force than by members of the mercenary firms drafted in to take over Lincolnshire police and the Olympic security detail – but has it really come to that?

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Wait ... what?

 

[revol68]

No you haven't.

First I've heard of cops complaining about overtime, on the contrary many used to joke that Drumcree and the kick off around the twelfth paid for their summer holidays.