Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[DotCommunist]

I'm tempted to ask if they were forced to do the Billy Bragg version by this swappie tyrant.

 

[butchersapron]

We rounded on him in desperation. None of us had any money, but we were all freezing, and we needed paper - not to read, but to burn. We begged him to give us even one paper, and join us at the fire. A slew of emotions chased across the SWP seller's face as he considered this dilemma. Finally, he agreed to give us two copies, if, and only if, any of us could sing at least two verses of the Internationale. So we did - me, some NEETs and schoolkids from the slums of London - our voices shaking a little from the chill. He handed over the papers with a smile and shuffled into the circle to warm up.

No singing of the Internationale this time

Hang this clown.

 

[ymu]

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[frogwoman]

The fact that there remains, in most communities in Britain, a small but dedicated group of left-wing activists with gloriously unreconstructed socialist sentiments and an inexhaustible energy for leafleting, is just one more thing that makes me proud to live on this bitter little island. Some of their ideas, like the notion that one can truly change the world by standing on the corner of every demonstration selling copies of the party newspaper, are a little antique, but the essential idea of revolution and resistance is never going out of style.

Cunt off you patronising fuck.

 

[LLETSA]

Why do so many people take these shallow self-publicists so seriously?

Is she the new Tamsin Ormond, or whatever she's called?

 

[butchersapron]

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Hang Laurie Penny.

 

[butchersapron]

Why do so many people take these shallow self-publicists so seriously?

Is she the new Tamsin Ormond, or whatever she's called?

Because some things annoy people and they like to say how much they annoy them. It's ok.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm thinking BA lost the will to close read by the time he got to the repetition of that pretty unbelievable anecdote.

 

[frogwoman]

that singing the Internatoinale paragraph is so plainly made up its unreal.

 

[frogwoman]

Sure you dont want to get the perfect christmas gift of six months of the new statesman for £39.99 butchers?

 

[butchersapron]

I'm thinking BA lost the will to close read by the time he got to the repetition of that pretty unbelievable anecdote.

I did, sos, - what totally nutty bulshit she makes up

 

[DotCommunist]

Cunt off you patronising fuck.

She's hilarious. Check out the 'I hate football' article- gold.

 

[LLETSA]

Because some things annoy people and they like to say how much they annoy them. It's ok.

I know. Nobody's annoying bastards list is as long as mine. But the annoyance is always disproportionate to their influence or importance. Where is little Tamsin now after the 944 page thread on here a while back?

 

[frogwoman]

A searing wound of rage and retribution lol.

 

[butchersapron]

Sure you dont want to get the perfect christmas gift of six months of the new statesman for £39.99 butchers?

I used to have one when someone called Steve (?) was editing i. It was not very good then, it's desperate editors chasing 'youth' (that oddly enough look exactly like them and their mates) is genius.

 

[butchersapron]

I know. Nobody's annoying bastards list is as long as mine. But the annoyance is always disproportionate to their influence or importance. Where is little Tamsin now after the 944 page thread on here a while back?

She gone. She's not barging herself forward as the stamped signed and agreed voice of the anti-cuts movement though. Laurie is.

 

[frogwoman]

God that world cup article is shockingly bad.

 

[ymu]

Hang Laurie Penny.

Yes, absolutely.

EDIT: solved by Dotty

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, i missed it. I had sand thrown in my eyes by the mention of NEETS.

 

[DotCommunist]

NEETS who can sing at least two verses of the internationale, or at least mouth the words alongside Penny's lead. Ironic.

 

[Prince Rhyus]

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2010/12/deregulating-resistance - Penny hits back at the Party for Working Socialism

 

[butchersapron]

Another enemy of the people.

 

[LLETSA]

She gone. She's not barging herself forward as the stamped signed and agreed voice of the anti-cuts movement though. Laurie is.

Maybe so-but she won't actually become that will she?

 

[butchersapron]

I don't care. Do you?

 

[audiotech]

I'm interested in whether or not you're going to join me at the fire. I want to know if you're up for a fight.

Answers on a postcard.

 

[butchersapron]

She can fuck off back to the lib-dems and her career. I'll be fighting. She'll be on twitter.

 

[butchersapron]

She was putting Omond on the agenda a few months ago - brilliant

My generation need to be heroes

Like many young people, Omond has a deep sense of moral and social justice, but does not trust ancient spiritual and political institutions to deliver the change she wants.

Scum, pure piggy-backing career scum.

 

[Lo Siento.]

repetition of the claim that twitter is the key. The vast majority of people do not spend their lives on social networking sites, ffs.

 

[frogwoman]

its to make it sound all post-modern and relevant

 

[butchersapron]

I can get the Internet on my phone and i'm under 30. Is that good enough Guardian/morning star/new statesman/ huffington post/ any old shit/editors