Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

he mentions the incident with David Starkey which, iirc, Starkey got fucking hammered for on this sexist website.

I don't think so! We helped expose the tissue of lies that Penny wove around it.

 

[Dan U]

Can anyone tell me what skype is? It says something about internet calls when I google it - does that mean on your computer or is it on the phone but using the internet's cables or summat?

i know others have said what it is but Skype is brilliant if you have family or friends in far flung places. We use it to communicate for free with Australia all the time and video conferencing is great.

Also Viber is a mobile based version. If you and I both had viber on our mobiles and were on wifi we could ring and text each other for free from anywhere in the world. It is really popular in Asia and Aus but is growing over here now.

/derail

 

[Dan U]

I don't think so! We helped expose the tissue of lies that Penny wove around it.

ha ha ok see my last post. i should probably read the old thread and stfu

 

[sam goloden]

for something that doesn't really matter you spend a fair amount of time here telling us it doesn't really matter

you are right though, it doesn't really matter LLETSA, so why do it, it's almost as if you think it matters

(yes, i know it only takes you a minute or so to post a comment here from your kitchen in your undercrackers etc...)

Compared to the dedicated anti-Lauraites, I rarely post, however. I merely feel compelled to comment now and again on this bizarre obsession with something that both doesn't matter in practical terms and can't be altered anyway, particularly when so much of the energy of the tiny numbers making up those who presumably want to change the society that produces Laura and her ilk is taken up in this way.

'The left' really fell for the great internet con. I mean, look at us, for fuck's sake

 

[Citizen66]

i know others have said what it is but Skype is brilliant if you have family or friends in far flung places. We use it to communicate for free with Australia all the time and video conferencing is great.

Also Viber is a mobile based version. If you and I both had viber on our mobiles and were on wifi we could ring and text each other for free from anywhere in the world. It is really popular in Asia and Aus but is growing over here now.

/derail

you can install Skype on mobiles too.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Compared to the dedicated anti-Lauraites, I rarely post, however. I merely feel compelled to comment now and again on this bizarre obsession with something that both doesn't matter in practical terms and can't be altered anyway, particularly when so much of the energy of the tiny numbers making up those who presumably want to change the society that produces Laura and her ilk is taken up in this way.

'The left' really fell for the great internet con. I mean, look at us, for fuck's sake

Who hurt you LLETSA? Who did it to you? Come on, let it out. We understand.

 

[butchersapron]

Compared to the dedicated anti-Lauraites, I rarely post, however. I merely feel compelled to comment now and again on this bizarre obsession with something that both doesn't matter in practical terms and can't be altered anyway, particularly when so much of the energy of the tiny numbers making up those who presumably want to change the society that produces Laura and her ilk is taken up in this way.

'The left' really fell for the great internet con. I mean, look at us, for fuck's sake

Now and again? At least 250 posts. Probably more as i can't remember all the names you've came back under.

 

[gosub]

and all the comments on that telegraph article are from the point of view that the likes of penny are stereotypical of the left (which i guess they are now, but you know what i mean), that's why she and her type are so fucking corrosive when they become established in this way and debilitate what little is left of left credibility outside of its shitty little ghetto

thought this comment was spot on:

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bugalugs
25 minutes ago

And isn't it a damning indictment of the Left in Britain today that a vapid posturing, infant ex-public schoolgirl like Penny could be considered one of the 100 'most influential'?

 

[editor]

I thought this was worth posting again in case anyone missed it (sorry if it's been pea-roasted into infinity).

 

[rekil]

'radical left wing journalist'

He forgot to add "with unique access" to the saucy riotbabe scene.

What drags me to the scene of any riot, to any interesting protest currently ongoing, is not just politics, nor thrill-seeking: it's chasing a story that the mainstream press are still not telling properly yet, chasing a an important story, a story to which I currently have unique access as a young person within the movement.

 

[Citizen66]

'What drags me to the scene of
Do you think if somebody could just point out that 'the movement' is only imaginary, all this could be cleared up?

If one desires to adorn a mask and post incognito it helps if one doesn't blow their cover by continuing to drag their hobby horse wherever they go.

 

[gosub]

comment posted on http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...117/in-defence-of-laurie-penny/#disqus_thread

that might want to be recommended


MentalStudent
7 minutes ago

Laurie Penny is not above dishing it out herself, such as smearing well known anti-fascist activists as racist, then dismissing all critics as sexist.
http://sabcat.com/disagreeing-...

 

[rekil]

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Do you think if somebody could just point out that 'the movement' is only imaginary, all this could be cleared up?​

Yeah, why hasn't someone thought about doing this?

 

[love detective]

Compared to the dedicated anti-Lauraites, I rarely post, however. I merely feel compelled to comment now and again on this bizarre obsession with something that both doesn't matter in practical terms and can't be altered anyway, particularly when so much of the energy of the tiny numbers making up those who presumably want to change the society that produces Laura and her ilk is taken up in this way.

'The left' really fell for the great internet con. I mean, look at us, for fuck's sake

you keep telling us how little effort it takes you to post here to tell us how it never matters, yet you've posted more times on this thread than I have, yet you moan about how much energy is taken up by, i presume, people like me posting about her

you've taken up more effort here posting about us posting about her than I have posting here about her - so don't get so het up about the 'energy' that is 'taken up' doing this by others, shift some of that concern onto your own 'energy' that is being 'taken up' whinging about it

 

[Citizen66]

What mask?

If you're not LLETSA you should seek work as his body double.

 

[Red Storm]

I thought this was worth posting again in case anyone missed it (sorry if it's been pea-roasted into infinity).

Starkey is a dick and is a dick on that video but I think LP comes across as a bit of a whopper on there.

 

[DotCommunist]

Leveson famously said that, "Some have called [the internet] a 'wild west' but I would prefer to use the term 'ethical vacuum'". He was a bit slow on the uptake, of course, but he was certainly right. Instances of cyber-bullying, such as that of Jessi Slaughter – the 11-year-old girl who was destroyed by hoards of online "haters" – are on the rise, and it seems there is little anybody can do about it. For journalists, coping with negative attention on the internet has become par for the course, unless one is writing solely about sugared almonds. I've been targeted a couple of times myself; I think everybody has.

Anybody in the press mentioning levenson outside of context must be killed. There should be a private eye feature on this, like 'warballs'.

Also, he whines like a mule. Oh the internets bullying me. Bringing up a 4chan case as well. Thats like judging the standard of discourse at the bar by using the bog wall graffiti as a guide.

 

[rekil]

It's basically ghosts combatting phantoms in a void.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I don't think I have, but it doesn't matter. It's just that I'm starting to get a bit concerned, like you would about a neighbour who you don't really know but can't help noticing has started behaving a bit oddly.

Thank you for your concerns, which have been duly noted.

 

[love detective]

I don't think I have, but it doesn't matter. It's just that I'm starting to get a bit concerned, like you would about a neighbour who you don't really know but can't help noticing has started behaving a bit oddly.

well if you want to split hairs, you've posted 250ish under two of the names I know you under, and me 280ish - so if you want to make a case that these 30 posts makes the differences between a lot of energy being exerted by me that concerns you and minimal effort taken up by you to do so then fair enough, seems fairly absurd suggestion to me though

 

[DotCommunist]

through the window and have away with the pension book sam

 

[Fozzie Bear]

There is no door, it is a phantom door.

And knocking on it wouldn't make any difference anyway because nobody would hear.

And if they did, it would be pointless.

 

[Random]

What do you think I should do, though? Knock on the door or just phone Social Services?

Take us out of ourselves, jolly us up by posting some really hard-hitting political threads.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Burning rag through the letterbox one night, then?

There is no letterbox, it is a phantom letterbox.

Or a rag.

Or fire.

And even if there were, it would all be pointless anyway.

 

[DotCommunist]

pmsl

 

[Citizen66]

Who said I wasn't LLETSA?

You asked earlier 'who is LLETSA' which is a strange question if it is actually yourself.

 

[Random]

The thing is-this IS the hard-hitting political thread. Barrel scraped entirely clean any day now.

Come on. Stop being a whinging parasite and actually contribute something.

 

[rekil]

Starkey walking like an egyptian is one of the best bits of the whole thread.

 

[gosub]

Starkey is a dick and is a dick on that video but I think LP comes across as a bit of a whopper on there.

Needs the accompany tweets for full effect. Along the lines of poor little old me just got attacked. iirc implied she had been physically attacked and it was entirely unprovoked.

 

[Fez909]

To be fair to LLETSA/Sam, it is a lot less effort what he's doing, even if he makes more posts. You can almost copy paste the responses. The left is dead; this is all pointless; why are you wasting your time on it?

I'm not sure what is wanted, though? Give up on 'the left' completely? Stop talking about stuff because we can't change it, so just go along for the ride?