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Really? There's another thread for this. I really need to go over the idea that you can charge at someone with a fire extinguisher over your head, in self defence, again?

The idea I put forward is the wild concept that attacking armed police with a blunt object makes you, at least, partially culpable, for your own death. Now we could take about the matter at hand, or we could keep talking about this, which makes my point that some people on urban hold irrational grudges, and arguments for a massive amount of time.

If I walk toward you holding a fire extinguisher over my head, and you're sat in a police Landie with wire screens over the windows, how do I pose an imminent threat to you, unless you're a hunter from South Park?
The answer, of course, is that I don't. Given that you're sat in a reinforced vehicle, are wearing riot gear and are armed, I pose no threat to you.
This is basic threat assessment. This is what squaddies were taught (and most of them learned) in Northern Ireland - You don't shoot the bloke fronting up to you, chucking rocks at you or pulling other aggressive shit (unless you're a Para, obviously) because frankly he's not a threat when you have the ability to blow holes in him. There was no need for the Carabinieri to shoot.
 
Guess what, Laurie, old stick. I work for a living, too. It's just I work at home with a 3 year old, doing dishes and cleaning the bathroom and hoovering and playing catch and washing preposterous amounts of clothes and fussing the dog and reading stories and stuff like that. I can also go on the internet now and again. Sorry I've not been to Greece to make art or Brooklyn to see breakdancing black kids and rewriting "We are the world" lately. I've been a bit busy. I can ALWAYS make time to call "bullshit", though.
 
This whole, entire thread in pictures:

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'I am WOMAN! Hear me ROAR!'

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'They don't like it up 'em!'
 
what the suffering fuck???

if i shagged somebody, or for that matter, watched porn of somebody with a swastika shaved into their pubes i would probably never feel horny again
 
what the suffering fuck???

if i shagged somebody, or for that matter, watched porn of somebody with a swastika shaved into their pubes i would probably never feel horny again
I have not seen the swastika, I believe it's something to do with marilyn manson.

Elsewhere, Zainab Al-Khawaja was arrested again in Bahrain the other day, the 5th time in a year.
 
Just out of curiosity if Laurie's still kicking around, did the New Scabsman give back the money they recieved from these people at any point? Or did they take the money and run before issuing a mealy-mouthed apology? Genuinely curious.

or the money new statesman have received from atos over the years who sponsored many of their events - new statesman refused to comment on that particular cosy relationship, perhaps laurie, the welfare rights activist will clear this up
 
Laurie - it's really not helpful to scream "misogyny" when faced with what is (arguably, and at worst) low level sexism. You must either be proper protected from the day to day low level stuff (possibly because of your privilege) or you're a fucking drama queen. Save the big best words for appropriate use, otherwise you'll devalue both the words and feminism.
 
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