Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[love detective]

Richard Murphy's going to have an aneurysm

 

[articul8]

I have some sympathy with him - having Ellie on (with the trendy vicar) plays up to this "young, naive, worthy, idealistic" thing, in contrast to the worldly-wise and expert tax professionals. Having another sober, grey suited boring looking accountant talk about how the whole thing is a massive fucking scam undermines this.

 

[rekil]

This time last year.

I've lost count of the number of times I've been told that because I have a smartphone and went to a private school, I have no business speaking about social justice.

At root, this argument is about a fear of ideology: a terror of real political and economic alternatives in a society that would still rather group people into warring tribes based on income and lifestyle. The left is not entirely immune from this sort of lazy reasoning.

Now.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@johnb78 point is that Robinson is a small businessman, and has a pile of money. No working-class hero.

 

[butchersapron]

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[articul8]

where/when's that from? Even a stopped clock...

 

[chilango]

*points and laughs*

ha ha.

 

[Random]

I'm starting to hear the glottal stops when reading now, thanks to ghost

 

[rekil]

I've decided that early next year I'm going to go to Ireland (NI and Republic) to cover abortion rights/radicalism. Who would like to meet?

I'm more Irish than English - it's also a great excuse to visit all my family

Kewl.

 

[DotCommunist]

Wolfe Tones on the ipod

 

[rekil]

IRA, I am in you!

etc

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm more Irish than English - it's also a great excuse to visit all my family​

Kewl.

Pipebombs for goalposts.

 

[DotCommunist]

The RA, I am up you

 

[DaveCinzano]

Tiocfaidh à la mode

 

[ViolentPanda]

Kewl.

Didn't Laura claim to be Jewish last year??

 

[DotCommunist]

Didn't Laura claim to be Jewish last year??

She was born in a jerusalem street, where the loyal drums do beat and the likud loving feet walked all over her. And every single night when her da would come home tight she'd admonish him for his excess

 

[DotCommunist]

We are all whichever oppressed group catches our attention this week

 

[BigTom]

Didn't Laura claim to be Jewish last year??

Pretty sure she said her (great?) grand dad was a Russian Jewish emigrant. Wouldn't stop her other 3 grand parents being Irish of course but i wonder how long it'll be until she has more that 4 Grand parents..

 

[flypanam]

Laura should meet Niamh Nic Mhathuna.

Mind you, Women in Ireland have spent fucking ages trying to get the church off their backs, I don't think they'll be too keen on another saviour.

 

[flypanam]

Pretty sure she said her (great?) grand dad was a Russian Jewish emigrant. Wouldn't stop her other 3 grand parents being Irish of course but i wonder how long it'll be until she has more that 4 Grand parents..

Probably an ancestor of Fredrick Douglas too. Got to cover all bases.

 

[The39thStep]

I am a feminist of Jewish descent whose relatives live in Israel, and for whom the idea of a Jewish homeland from exile is not a concept of emotional irrelevance.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

What did the half Israeli Guard in Dublin say to Laura when he nicked her at an abortion protest next year?

"Irish Jew in the name of the law"

 

[killer b]

Oof!

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[not-bono-ever]

In one awful way, I have to admire her drive - she has pulled herself up by her bootstraps - Shes carved out a decent life for herself innit - jetting around, talking shite - not bad for an Oxbridge public school girl on the poverty line.

 

[articul8]

 

[JimW]

I have to admire her drive.

You're only allowed to do that from the other side of the road well beyond the gatehouse or her parents will set the gamekeeper on you.

 

[Random]

In one awful way, I have to admire her drive - she has pulled herself up by her bootstraps - Shes carved out a decent life for herself innit - jetting around, talking shite - not bad for an Oxbridge public school girl on the poverty line.

she must be in touch with plenty of friends from private school and oxford who are earning telephone numbers. That probably keeps her feeling edgy and martyred.

 

[frogwoman]

yeah i swear she said something last year accusing somebody of anti-semitism when they criticised her. that might just be me imagining things tho

 

[love detective]

she must be in touch with plenty of friends from private school and oxford who are earning telephone numbers. That probably keeps her feeling edgy and martyred.

And she always seems to be in touch, Harri like, with unidentified/unattributed people whose personal situation exactly matches whatever topic she's writing about

(although saying that, apart from her usual appropriating usage of 'our' and 'we' her recent guardian article wasn't too bad, well i mean there wasn't as much wrong with it as is usually the case)

 

[Bakunin]

that might just be me imagining things tho

There's a lot of money in imagining things.

Ask Penny Dreadful.