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[Spanky Longhorn]

I find her attitude deeply unattractive...is the basis of my point. Lack of sexual attraction is not essential to it.

furious backpeddling

 

[revol68]

Tbf I don't think articul8's comment is necessarily sexist, I mean yes women are more likely to have their looks commented on in general due to sexist assumptions but one individual making such a comment does not sexism make. I mean there are plenty of comments about various ugly smug male tories made on these. Also it's not so much her face in the sense of bone structure or whatever but that awful smug face she is making that.

 

[articul8]

Haters night is it? Fine... Mea culpa

 

[weepiper]

Attack her fucking politics, not whether you want to fuck her.

 

[butchersapron]

I find her attitude deeply unattractive...is the basis of my point. Lack of sexual attraction is not essential to it.

So you just cum when reading cruddas and then comment on it.

 

[butchersapron]

Haters night is it? Fine... Mea culpa

Haters? What kind of self image have you built to protect yourself?

 

[love detective]

Also it's not so much her face in the sense of bone structure or whatever but that awful smug face she is making that.

total face

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Tbf I don't think articul8's comment is necessarily sexist, I mean yes women are more likely to have their looks commented on in general due to sexist assumptions but one individual making such a comment does not sexism make. I mean there are plenty of comments about various ugly smug male tories made on these. Also it's not so much her face in the sense of bone structure or whatever but that awful smug face she is making that.

A ranting fool at the right time most of the time and the wrong time right now.

 

[revol68]

A ranting fool at the right time most of the time and the wrong time right now.

I'm not following?

 

[cesare]

Tbf I don't think articul8's comment is necessarily sexist, I mean yes women are more likely to have their looks commented on in general due to sexist assumptions but one individual making such a comment does not sexism make. I mean there are plenty of comments about various ugly smug male tories made on these. Also it's not so much her face in the sense of bone structure or whatever but that awful smug face she is making that.

Oh, come off it. Not necessarily sexist lol.

 

[articul8]

So you just cum when reading cruddas and then comment on it.

What? What on earth makes u think I'm at all pro Cruddas? Nor have I got close to defending a rapist. I said I found someone politically and sexually unattractive. Maybe u all want to fuck Eric pickles?

 

[butchersapron]

What? What on earth makes u think I'm at all pro Cruddas? Nor have I got close to defending a rapist. I said I found someone politically and sexually unattractive. Maybe u all want to fuck Eric pickles?

Moar! As they used to say.

 

[revol68]

Oh, come off it. Not necessarily sexist lol.

No it's not, it's quite possible for someone to hold men and women's views equal whilst also happening to pass comment on one particular women having a smug face that could turn milk, just as passing comment on Gideon Osbournes smug face or various other male politicians appearance doesn't mean you think they should be judged on their appearance above their politics.

I genuinely don't think articul8 is sexist, I think he's a political clown but I really don't think he can be said to be sexist and trying to nail him on this is just people looking an excuse to kick our favourite labourite cat.

 

[revol68]

total face

I don't really know what this means but I still somehow understand.

 

[articul8]

True, apart from the clown bit

 

[butchersapron]

It might - at best, at best - be alan partridge trying to be 'in with the lads' but given his past form does he get a pass because he pretends to have read pannekoek? Not by me.

 

[weepiper]

It was sexist. 'The temerity of the woman, writing a sex advice column. What could she possibly know about sex? I don't fancy her'.

 

[revol68]

It might - at best, at best - be alan partridge trying to be 'in with the lads' but given his past form does he get a pass because he pretends to have read pannekoek? Not by me.

Do you think passing comment on a female politicians face constitutes sexism in itself? I don't, not anymore than commenting on how Gideon's face would put you off your cornflakes means someone judges him on his looks more than his politics.

 

[butchersapron]

Do you think passing comment on a female politicians face constitutes sexism in itself? I don't, not anymore than commenting on how Gideon's face would put you off your cornflakes means someone judges him on his looks more than his politics.

I think this case its nailed on.

 

[articul8]

It was sexist. 'The temerity of the woman, writing a sex advice column. What could she possibly know about sex? I don't fancy her'.

Rubbish...it was clearly in the context of her politics and smug attitude...not her physiognomy

 

[revol68]

It was sexist. 'The temerity of the woman, writing a sex advice column. What could she possibly know about sex? I don't fancy her'.

I think it was the face she was making more than her face per se.

And no I don't think it's necessarily sexist to comment on her face, you would have to show a pattern of consistently judging women on their looks over their politics/actions etc

 

[weepiper]

Rubbish...it was clearly in the context of her politics and smug attitude...not her physiognomy

a one woman effort to prevent premature ejaculation - her face = anti-aphrodisciac

uh huh.

 

[butchersapron]

It was sexist. 'The temerity of the woman, writing a sex advice column. What could she possibly know about sex? I don't fancy her'.

Exactly. A woman who wrote about sex, I better call her an ugly cow who couldn't make me cum.

 

[articul8]

I think this case its nailed on.

He means I am a class traitor and so don't need to be judged fairly

 

[butchersapron]

He means I am a class traitor and so don't need to be judged fairly

I mean your own words damn you.

 

[articul8]

R

Exactly. A woman who wrote about sex, I better call her an ugly cow who couldn't make me cum.

Oh ffs where have I suggested women shouldn't write about sex?

 

[revol68]

He means I am a class traitor and so don't need to be judged fairly

well if he'd had said that was the case I'd never have raised any objection, I'd happily see you quartered.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Panic ye not, help is on the way

 

[cesare]

No it's not, it's quite possible for someone to hold men and women's views equal whilst also happening to pass comment on one particular women having a smug face that could turn milk, just as passing comment on Gideon Osbournes smug face or various other male politicians appearance doesn't mean you think they should be judged on their appearance above their politics.

I genuinely don't think articul8 is sexist, I think he's a political clown but I really don't think he can be said to be sexist and trying to nail him on this is just people looking an excuse to kick our favourite labourite cat.

I don't necessarily think he's sexist as a label, like he is a SEXIST. But that was a fucking sexist comment to make, so he should be pulled up on it not find excuses for it. People do sexist, racist, whateverist shit sometimes - doesn't make them a WHATEVER in total. But you should fucking pull them up on it (the comment/thinking) then move on.

 

[articul8]

Don't mind being flayed for what I believe in, but being misrepresented is something else